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Old 07-02-2009   #1 (permalink)
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((Sorry to n00b post here as my 1st post but))

1st off i just want to say that this is my 3rd car forum ive left the other forums due to useless/misleading information from people getting angry at me for lack of car knowledge. If you havent anything nice to say please spare me your 10 cents - however be it negative constructive crit, lets here it in a understandable manor.

Anyways i belive my title says it all I used to drive a sup'd up 94 mitisubishi 3000gt ((fast car but hadles like **** please dont buy it)) until oneday a drunk redneck thought it would be a wonderful idea to push my car in the parkinglot into a brick wall and flip his truck over in the drive thru.
His car was totaled but my 3000gt still ran but the cosmetic damages exceed what im willing to put back into the car.

So i have a wonderful rebuilt polished/piston ect engine in a car that has no bumpers or hood and i just bought a 2.3 93 mustang lx

Was wondering if the 3.0 v6 mitsubishi engine will fit in the mustang? Im using noob knowledge to assume that it WILL based off the fact that v8's will fit in these things and on top of that 5.0L while my 3000gt's Liter is only 3

Overall: "Will my 3000gt's 3.0 V6 engine fit into my 93 2.3mustang lx?"

>Or did the jappanese do something retarded to the engine to make it only fit in their cars? Thanks guys!
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Ok well I will say this...anything is possible with enough cash...now that said after the amount of money that you would spend and the custom work you would put into it I would just redo the 2.3 liter and turbo it, if it is a turbo that you want. But as I said anything is possible but it will take a WHOLE lot of knowledge and custom work to get it done. Maybe you could swap the motor and trans from the 3000gt for a ford motor of choice? just a few ideas but don't let anything discourage you because everyone must start somewhere.
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as stated above anything is possible with a plasma cutter tig welder and major fabrication skills

Last but not least a truck load of money....

to be perfectly honest everything needed to do that swap is just not worth it......
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Aw damn thats what i was afraid of... fabrication Ive spent some time looking at the engines but i hadnt really measured. Im just trying to find a use for this 3k motor that thing PULLS! mitisubishi realy surprised me there and this is only the base modle

Im guessing turboing this car and maybe replacing a few rusty parts on the engine would cost alil over 2k for a decent one. I was just trying to find a fast way to get back on the track xD
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Your best bet was to git another Mitsubishi. There was a person puting a SHO V6 in a mustang with a Ranger 5speed and Aerostar bellhouding and they had to fab up stuff
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CUT NO WIRES.
When you remove the wire harness be sure to mark where everything goes, wrap tape around the wire ends and label them, take pictures of everything, write down where wires go and draw your own wire diagram in a way you can figure out.

You will want to use as much as you can from the dash including the gauge cluster, headlight switches and the steering column.

The engine: Keep the motor mounts on the engine... hoist it over the engine bay with the transmission mounted to the back end. Lower the engine, make sure the engine clears the steering assembly, you might need to position the engine to the right of the car about an inch so the engine would be off center. Mark the position of the motor mounts, you may need to weld in 1/8" steel plates and extend them forward of the Ford K-member. The engine should fit between the shock towers with enough room to work around the sides.

Bolt the transmission support bar to the transmission and mark on the underside of the Mustang where the mounts should be placed. You might need to cut away some of the metal on the Mitsi and weld that to the Mustang.

The driveline from the Mustang should be saved along with the one from the 3000. Measure the back end of the transmission to the mounting plate for the Mustang rear end under the car.
If you're a god at welding you can measure, cut and weld the driveline to fit your car, but if not you can have a driveline specialist do it.

The shifter may fit through the original hole in the floor, unless you need to cut metal away from the front of the tunnel, I'm thinking about 2 inches. The position of the Mitsi 3000 engine as opposed to the driver is set back farther than the Mustang...

Power steering lines will need to be made using Mitsi pump ends to Mustang steering rack ends.

The front springs, struts and brakes from a 5.0 Mustang should be installed as you'll be adding more weight to the car and a bit more power.

The radiator, rad fans and hoses can be used from the Mitsi along with the intercooler(s). Don't bother with air conditioning though. Reroute the heater hoses going to the heater assembly so that it just recirculates the hot water back into the engine right out of the water pump. Yeah you won't have heat anymore but big deal...

The fuel lines... you'll need to fit adapters to the ends of the fuel lines coming up the left side of the firewall and extend them to run to the fuel rail. The fuel pump would need to be updated to a 155LPH unit, the injectors need the constant flow of fuel, the Fuel Pressure Regulator might not have enough pressure from the stock pump, on the 3000GTs I've crimped the return line of the fuel rail to limit the returned amount of fuel...

Downpipes and exhaust... worry about the exhaust when you're near completion. Dump the exhaust right behind the front tires to make it easier. There's enough room to run dual exhaust front to back, just dump it quick and dirty.

Pedaling: The clutch assembly on the 3000GT is hydraulic I thunk... a thunkathunka you gotta use the pedals from the 3000GT, the brake booster, brake pedal, gas pedal... You'll need to unbolt the whole dash of the Mustang and Mitsi and reweld the Mitsi pedal assembly to the Mustang body.

If the 3000GT is an automatic car... forget about it.

This whole idea you have would take a couple hundred hours of devoted work and the end result may not even be worth half the effort. I forsee this being an abandoned project car.
Your best bet to adding great power would be to stick with a Ford unit and just sell off the 3000GT stuff to fund a Ford based project.
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yea like stated before definately not a job you can do on your own. i dont think youll find much help here that you can find useful if your devoted to the swap, but i can give you other great engines that will bolt right in (2.3T motor). how would you like 350hp to the rearwheels and still get 20-30mpg
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Its possible, There are ways arouind using stuff from the car thye motor comes from, like aftermarket guages for example. You are going to need a way for that fwd v6 to run rwd. It's not the point that these cars came with v8's, So do a blevy of fwd GM's. That engine unles going in another fwd Mitstubishi is gonna be work, it would be just as hard puitting it in a MightyMax.
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If you havent anything nice to say please spare me your 10 cents - however be it negative constructive crit, lets here it in a understandable manor.
Hear me out...

1st of all, if you aren't paying me to be nice to you, and you're asking for advice in a public forum, you've chosen to live in an alternate reality where up is down, left is right, and you'll quickly find your opinion doesn't matter.

Next up (and I'm being constructive), "here" is a place, I "hear" with my ears and I live in a "manor" in a manner of speaking, so don't be so bold as to tell me how to speak to you.

If your feelings aren't hurt (and that's REALLY not my intent), good for you!

Just be prepared for a throw-down when you tell people how they're supposed to talk to you when you're not talking in English

Capish?

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Lowerednjuiced Gave some good advice. I am the nut putting a SHO in a Mustang. To say easy no, no. Worth it I think so. If mechanically inclinded and everything measures out and can conver to RWD. Go for it. Just expect alot of work. Mine is Ford to Ford and should be easier. Not. Wiring changes, k-member in way of oil pan. Major wiring changes and the list goes on and on. Good luck and I would love to know. Since my SHO is a Japanese engine. Yamaha. Maurice
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You should be able to pick up an IHI (SVO) turbo up for 6-800 bucks. A T3/T4 turbo will run you up to 1400 bucks. The kits are about 80-150, and you still need a manifold.

I'd do the turbo!
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that sounds like a sick idea ive ridden in a few stealths (same car basically) and they rip! yeah he work would be extensive but the end product i think would be really freekin cool!
good luck
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Lowerednjuiced Gave some good advice. I am the nut putting a SHO in a Mustang. To say easy no, no. Worth it I think so. If mechanically inclinded and everything measures out and can conver to RWD. Go for it. Just expect alot of work. Mine is Ford to Ford and should be easier. Not. Wiring changes, k-member in way of oil pan. Major wiring changes and the list goes on and on. Good luck and I would love to know. Since my SHO is a Japanese engine. Yamaha. Maurice
I was talking about somebdy that was on FEP about a year or so ago but okay
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Ok please no offense to you cappuccino. Let me start of by saying this. I have an 89 drop top mustang with a ZO6 and 6 speeder in it. I am a professional shop that builds cars like this. It is a total waste of time even thinking about putting a mitsu motor in a stang. Heres why and no offense intended. The mitsu 3.0 turbo motor is CRAP JUNK GARBAGE UNDER POWERED OIL BURNING PIECE OF NYTROGENOUS WASTE. Sell it to some 3000 gt nut and put a ford motor in your stang. A 2.3 turbo or 5.0 is more reliable and less of a hassle. All parts are easy to obtain and will make the job a whole lot easier and much more reliable than a 3.0 Mitsu motor. You can also use that mitsu motor for something it is definately souted for and that is a BOAT ANCHOR that motor is a joke. No disrespect i have rebuilt several of these motors and lived to regret every one i did. Peace and no disrespest intended. TOM
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[quote=TOM RENZO;1657810]Ok please no offense to you cappuccino. Let me start of by saying this. I have an 89 drop top mustang with a ZO6 and 6 speeder in it. I am a professional shop that builds cars like this. It is a total waste of time even thinking about putting a mitsu motor in a stang. Heres why and no offense intended. The mitsu 3.0 turbo motor is CRAP JUNK GARBAGE UNDER POWERED OIL BURNING PIECE OF NYTROGENOUS WASTE. Sell it to some 3000 gt nut and put a ford motor in your stang. A 2.3 turbo or 5.0 is more reliable and less of a hassle. All parts are easy to obtain and will make the job a whole lot easier and much more reliable than a 3.0 Mitsu motor. You can also use that mitsu motor for something it is definately suited for and that is a BOAT ANCHOR that motor is a joke. No disrespect i have rebuilt several of these motors and lived to regret every one i did. Peace and no disrespest intended. TOM [
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