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Old 12-02-2006   #61 (permalink)
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The 2.3 is the most overbuilt, indestructible engine I've ever had the pleasure of working with.

It's also been pretty powerful for it's size over the years, 215hp from 140cid in 1986? Yeah that was with a turbo, but heck, it made 109hp from 140cid in 1974... (0.78 hp per cubic inch... compare that to a 1987 5.0 Mustang's 225hp from 302cid (0.75hp per cubic inch!))

I bought my 1974 'stang with an already high-mileage 2.3 and started modifying the hell out of it, hoping to kill it so I could justify putting a 289 or 302 in it with my parents... that was when I was 17.

I'll turn 22 in a couple of weeks, and I just pulled that 2.3 out this year because she was smoking out the tailpipe with just a hair over 300,000 miles on the odometer... that's right, there's FIVE zeroes behind that three! What did I put in there???

ANOTHER 2.3, this one out of a 1988 Mustang LX my family owned for two years, that engine got an oil change three times in all of that time, was driven daily with only two working gears in the A4LD tranny behind it, meaning it saw up to 6500rpm on a daily basis for over a year, and when I sold the car to a friend who was doing a 5.0 project, I kept the engine... tore into it, and found a little bit of bearing wear, but not enough to justify buying another set for an engine I was just going to "run hard till she puked" anyway... that was this summer... she's still running hard, over 100,000 on this engine between the THREE vehicles it's been in (was originally pulled out of a wrecked low-miles Ranger) modified just as radically as it's predecessor except for the camshaft, and I'm still trying to justify a V8 swap... I have a fairly hard time doing so since my 5.0 blew up a few weeks after buying it... but a 2.3 turbo swap is always tempting...

Oh, and the original smoking 300k+ 2.3??? Turned out to just need valve stem seals after 31 years and 300k+ miles... everything else was still within tolerances... not bad for an engine that SUCKS!

I chalk that up to how overbuilt the thing is, it's main bearing caps are as big as the ones on a Chevy V8, it's oil pump is nearly the same size as one in a 460, it's camshaft has a retainer plate on it from the factory, something that's an "upgrade" on several engine families, the compression's reasonably good on almost all of them (9.0:1 or higher on almost all of the non-turbo versions) bolts that are bigger than what's in the bottom of a 302 hold the bottom end together, and the block, head, and manifold castings are some of the thickest-walled stuff I've seen on any engine, if I dropped a 2.3 head on my garage floor, I'd probably just bolt it on the engine without a second thought, if I dropped one for a Ford 302? or a Chevy 350? or just about any other engine? it'd go to the machine shop to be checked out first!

Do I wish my 2.3 had a little more power? hell yeah I do, but do I think it sucks? NO!
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I've been running my 2.3 for 2 seasons now (100+) runs with no problems.each run the motor was between 8600 and 9100 rpms.Sooo 2.3's are junk huh
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sorry but you have alot to learn,the 2.3ohc engine is one hell of an engine,very very dependable
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Lmao At This Thread.....wouldnt It Be The Maker Not The Damn Size Of The Engine If Theres A Prob???
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i got a 1993 2.3 hatch back, swapped out a C3 trans from A4LD, been abusing it and revving to yellow line, engine is still strong , stubborn, common problem to oil leak, just a stupid design on pan. Drove down interstate at 4000 rpm at over 85 mph engine been screaming and growls. If you guys change your automatic trans to C3 you got plenty power driving down highway speeds.
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Hey bucko, my 1st car IS a 89 2.3 mustang and
it has 190,057 MI. on it. It has been in the family
forever, has had the motor rebuilt 20,000MI. ago
and has NEVER had any problems ex. maintance
(given). I don't pamper it and I like to beat the
piss out of it every once in a while. The fastest
I've been in it was about 123MPH. My best time
in the 8th was 11.32 at 63mph.(Yeah, slow)
but the turbo is coming. O yeah, it is a 5 speed
with 3.45 7.5 rear.
eh? impossible to have a 3.45 in a 7.5 rear, only 8.8 is the way only fit, the biggest can fit is 3.08 that biggeset i know can fit in that small oval rearend
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I plan on pulling my 2.3L out of my 89 mustang LX and replacing it with a 302 of the same year. I have a standard transmission would I need to remove the tranny or will it match up, or can I get a conversion kit for it. Tourque aside that is. Also What kind of rear end do I need to put in it if I do. Need some help I'm a total novice at this. Thanks
Pointless the 4 cylinder has a A4LD and will not fit with 302, even you ahve to change cross memeber and drive shaft, and rear end
this 4 cylinder has a 7.5 now and you are being nuts that if you build a 4 cylinder turbo and do alot work on it, can outrun 5.0 w/ 5 speed transmission, trust me I know and saw it.
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eh? impossible to have a 3.45 in a 7.5 rear, only 8.8 is the way only fit, the biggest can fit is 3.08 that biggeset i know can fit in that small oval rearend

Incorrect. Ratio has nothing to do with gear size. From 85 or 86 to '93, all automatic equipped 2.3 cars came with 3.73s and the 5spd cars came with 3.45s in a 7.5" axle. You can get 4.10s in a 7.5" ring gear from most major gear manufacturers.
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my old 88 ranger came stock with 410 gears in a 7.5....
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ah ok i didn't know, so usally my stock mustang have what rear end?
i believe it is 3.08 but i can check the tag again
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yeah i just checked out it is a 3.73 w/ limited slip differental
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How did you verify the limited slip diff?
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2.3 is that th size of the gerbal under the hood? if it a'nt at least a 3.5 and has 8 cylenders than i'd rather walk.

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How did you verify the limited slip diff?
You can either pull the cover off the diff and look inside (messy, stinky, greasy work.) Or, look just inside your driver's door on the post, there is a tag there with the codes for what paint color, differential, etc.

I'll type up a table when I get back to my own computer (using my dad's laptop now). The info is in the back of Texas Mustang Parts' catalog, so I'll put a table in the 2.3 Tech and 5.0 Tech forums.

I know my old 1988 LX 2.3 'vert had the open 3.73 diff... after taking to manually shifting it's worn-out A4LD to get from point A to point B, it was enough to chirp the tires shifting up AND down from 1-2 and 2-1.
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I raced a 320,000 mile 2.3 turbo mustang all year and I almost went into the 10's with it. 100% stock untouched junk yard engine oil pan to valve cover.

here's a webpage that should make a believer out of ANY nay-sayers.

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