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Old 01-25-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Default 1991 Mustang Lx automatic to manual transmission Swap

i want to know what i need to have to convert my 1991 Lx 2.3L mustang im saving money to buy a brand new 1986 SVO engine but i need to know what exact parts will i need for the manual transmission that will fit on my car and the rear end ETC. this car is my project car and i want to have it run like a champ if anyone can help me out with a list of donor cars that would fit on my car for the manual trans swap plz help me out

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Any T5 from a 2.3.

Transmission
Crossmember
Driveshaft
Pedals
clutch
clutch cable
pressure plate
flywheel
input shaft baring
shifter linkage
and transmission wiring
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Not the input shaft bearing, but the Pilot bearing. big difference.

You'll also need longer bolts to attach the flywheel to the crank. The flexplate bolts won't do. They're available from ARP. The application is for a 2.0L Ford.

You probably won't need the wiring. The automatic harness can be easily modified to work with the T5. The only thing in that particular bundle is the neutral safety circuit and the reverse lights.

The driveshaft can come from any V8 Mustang or a 5spd equipped 4cyl, car. Same goes for the crossmember.

Avoid 86-88 T-bird Turbo Coupes, they've got a hydraulic clutch setup as opposed to the Mustang's cable. You can go hydraulic, but there's more work involved. Save it for next winter.
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whats the difference between a hydraulic manual set up compared to the cable set up and would my rearend on my 1991 mustang 2.3L would it be okay not swapping the rear end? its a 7.5 rearend and i wanna know the difference because if im going to do the job i want to do it once and how much would i be looking at if i paid someone else to do the job like the dealership or transmission shop if i bring them all the parts just want an estimate and estimate how much all the parts would be?
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Default And what am i getting myself into

what kind of tools will i need to for this job and how difficult of a job is it to do something like this i am 19 and turning 20 and barely have any tools as it is and have no idea on how to work on transmissions so is there any information out there like a step by step process of what to do and are there automatic racing transmissions for a 1986 SVO engine turbo

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The difference is just the manner in which the clutch is actuated. Each has it's pros and cons. The easiest way is the cable setup since that's what the car was equipped with originally.

The rear end is fine and really isn't effected by a trans swap.
Unless you know someone who owns a shop or have family that owns a shop, take a jar of vaseline with you. It'll ease the pain. Most shops won't touch a job like that especially if you drop a load of used parts at their feet. The shops that will touch it are custom shops and "custom" is apparently Latin for "effin' expensive"

Here's the deal. If you can't change a tire, do a tune up or change oil, sell the car, and buy one with a 5spd or live with the automatic. If you really have no clue, "but wan't to learn" I don't think this is a learner's project especially if the car is your daily driver. It's not difficult if you have a clue. I did the job over two days with no more than 6-8 hours on both days. I did the pedals first, and then the following Saturday swapped the trans. But I've been doing crap like this since the early 80's

The only true performance automatic option for the 2.3 is a C4. The downside is that it's not an overdrive automatic. There's an adapter plate being made now that adapts Windsor bellhousings to the 2.3 block. This opens the door to a couple more options on both the automatic and the manual side. 6spd anyone?

Search teh interweb for stinger performance. There's a how to article on 5spd swaps there that's pretty good. There's a few details missing, but nothing that hasn't been covered in this thread.
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Not the input shaft bearing, but the Pilot bearing. big difference.

You'll also need longer bolts to attach the flywheel to the crank. The flexplate bolts won't do. They're available from ARP. The application is for a 2.0L Ford.

You probably won't need the wiring. The automatic harness can be easily modified to work with the T5. The only thing in that particular bundle is the neutral safety circuit and the reverse lights.

The driveshaft can come from any V8 Mustang or a 5spd equipped 4cyl, car. Same goes for the crossmember.

Avoid 86-88 T-bird Turbo Coupes, they've got a hydraulic clutch setup as opposed to the Mustang's cable. You can go hydraulic, but there's more work involved. Save it for next winter.
Always get those 2 mixed up
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Maybe 20PSI, new computer, new 3" VAM, and some porting will make it faster

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this is my project car and not my dialy drving vehicle due to the transmission be messed up the body and etc is in excelent condition so is the rag top i just the engine is lousy and so is the transmission other than that the car is perfect i can change my own oil and spark plugs etc im familar with an engine just not with a transmission but my project is to set up my car into a manual i appreciate the help if you can give me anymore tips it would be greatly appreciated
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It's an in and out swap if you break it down to the basics. You don't really need to know anything about what goes on inside the transmission itself, just the installation.

Go read Stinger's write up. I'm sure a few more lightbulbs will pop up afterwards. Come on back and we'll help sort that out too.
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can i have the url. adress for it im new to this forum so if it is on here tell me where i can find it
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Auto to 5 Speed Tranny Swap
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Maybe 20PSI, new computer, new 3" VAM, and some porting will make it faster

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i want to read stingers 2.3 turbo conversion or how to drop a turbo engine into the car
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Turbo Swap How To--Step by Step Instructions

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Maybe 20PSI, new computer, new 3" VAM, and some porting will make it faster

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Stinger's write never said anything about changing the driveshaft or the trans. crossmember?
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Need a different crossmember because the turbo has a different mount and its moved forward
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