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Old 10-21-2008   #1 (permalink)
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ok, well it started out that i bought this from a friend and decided to do some work on it needed some major oil change and coolant flush. tore apart all of engine except block and cylinders. cleaned very well and then put back together put new stuff in etc. etc.. one mistake my friend made while putting it back togteher was he hooked up the charcoal hose to my coolant flow out valve from the engine block and hooked the coolant drain hose to my charcoal hose connector which is on the throttle body(charcoal box is just an air recirculator that reuses air to get cleaner emissions) but i corrected that because it wasnt running now it starts wonderfully split second starts but i cant keep it running it only goes up to about 1500 rpms and wont go any higher and dies. any ideas? heres what ive been told it might be-timing-fuel injectors-fuel pump-fuel lines. also this car was running on 2 cylinders due to being mistimed and not in the correct firing order for about 4 years so im not sure if the cylinders are majorly stuck? any help would be much appreciated thanks!
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Well, your cylinders are not stuck. Otherwise, the car wouldn't even turn over let alone run.
I'd say adjust the timing, and if that doesn't solve the problem, then it would most likely mean fuel/ignition. You said you replaced some new things?
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Fuel, Compression, Spark - in the correct order at the correct time.

Fuel - most likely culprit. If possible check the pressure at the fuel rail. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but it should be in the 30s? I have a jeep that does this occasionally, the pressure will drop from it's standard 35psi to about 5psi, and the engine will idle alright, but with an open throttle it stutters and dies. I've got a bad wire on the fuel pump that causes my troubles. Possibly a blocked filter or dirty/dead injectors. I actually pulled the fuel rail and injectors off of the intake and watched them squirt into the air once trying to diagnose a problem. I would NOT recommend trying this - nearly vaporized gas has a habit of exploding at the darnedest times. but I knew as I rushed for the fire extinguisher that the problem was not in the injectors

compression - you said that it was running on two...but timing won't really cause it to run on two - improperly adjusted timing will usually cause it to either not run, or to run really, really poorly on all four. Check the compression, especially on the two that you said weren't running before. you said it starts right up now - so it is doubtful that this is the problem.

Spark - 89 was still and EEC-IV system right? Usually when they go bad, they go all the way bad. Check that all the wires are good and have good connections (probably, but sometimes it is the little things ) check the vacuum lines especially the ones around the upper intake manifold...for that matter check and make sure that you don't have unmetered air coming in at the junction between the upper and lower intake sections. Last, take a flashlight or shoplight and look for any loose wires, again around the intake (both upper and lower sections - I can't go out and look now, but it seems like there is a sensor underneath the lower intake manifold) and around the airbox.

Everything else - recheck the timing, both ignition and cam timing. If the cam was put back a tooth off, it might cause symptoms that are similar to what you are describing - you night want to check the timing belt tensioner and make sure that it is holding the belt tight. I had one that the spring lost tension, and it allowed the belt to jum about 6 teeth. That was far enough to keep it from running at all.

I've also had a shear pin break on the distributor drive. the drive had enough friction with the broken pin and distributor shaft that it would turn the distributor when the motor was cranked, but when it caught, it would start slipping. (probably not - after the first time it slipped, the engine would not want to start)

Hope something here helps.
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hmm well its efi and when i took it apart i cleaned the fuel in jectors in actone but i ddi not clean out the fuel filters and when my friend pushed the pressure valve on the fuel rail he said it came out almost a dark grey for a little bit also i had replaced the old gap spark plugs with bosch platnium spark plugs (would that make a difference?) and it doesnt seem to me that the belts slipping because ive watched it and it doesnt squeel or look at tho its not gripping properly ohh and also i have a cherry pipe(bomb) whatever you prefer it named should i take that off? i know they cause a lot of back pressue in the engine at the price of the ricey sound.
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well i got a new intake on it a cold air and i got new spark plugs and new coolant and oil and power steering fluid and that stuff but its jsut a matter of it staying up in the high rpms or getting up there im not sure if soaking the fuel injectors in acetone is bad for them but thats what i was told to do to clean them
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