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Old 02-05-2009   #1 (permalink)
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Hello all, I have been a member for awhile but have never posted. I am currently in progress of a turbo swap and just have a couple of questions to make sure I'm on the right path. Any help would be MUCH appreciated. The mustang is a 1989 n/a 2.3l and the motor is from a 1987 turbo coupe. I have installed the 8.8 rear end from it, installed a cobra master cylinder with a 3-2 port conversion with an adjustable proportioning valve. I have done this with preparation of the turbo swap ahead. I have just removed the motor this past Sunday and I am currently cleaning up the engine bay, sanding, and repainting all the surfaces. I would like the total job to look good since I have everything out this would be a great time. I have a rebuilt motor from the 1987 turbo coupe that I will be using which has a reground crank, cam, new oil pump, bearings, valve seals, and all that good stuff. I have sold the old 1987 coupe and I kept the following: Upper intake, lower intake, oil pan, vam, electronic boost control solenoid, intercooler, vam pigtail (I hope), E6 manifold, a computer from an 1987 Automatic turbo coupe and a 88 computer from a 1988 standard turbo coupe. I asking the community here to please guide me as to what I am missing or I need to use. I understand I am to use the mustang upper and lower intake manifolds, mustang oil pan, turbo coupe vam pigtail, and a computer but does it matter which one I use? Are they both LA3 computers? I am using an already fully rebuilt A4LD with all new hard parts as well. Also some say to use the Egr and some say not to use it. I am also using an 255lph fuel pump but what adjustable pressure regulator should I use? I also have no oil feed or return lines what do I do? I have found a Mitsubishi Starion intercooler but my technician at work says I could have his old 2004 SRT-4 intercooler. Which one should I use or how about the Volvo or Isuzu NPR intercooler and if so what year? Should I rotate my intake and how? I have three upper and lower sets. I know I have alot of questions and I appreciate any help anyone can give me. It's pretty much what you guys say I will install. I have documented the motor pull via video and plan to do so for the entire job. One last thing, I need a TURBO!

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Ok, let me see if I can assist.....

1. Look up STINGER and he has a procedure to convert to just what you are doing.
2. The LA series is for a manual trans car. The LB is for an auto. The 2 or 3 after LA or LB is just a series difference which is unnoticable.
3. Oil feed you can get from forced4.com. The return you should get from a PARTS NEEDED forum at turboford.com. DO NOT get the Max PSI line, as it has been known to constrict the return of oil and let it back up into the turbo thus go into the exhaust.
4. Intercooler.......go with what you want. It all depends on what you are willing to work with.
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Basically everything NavySVO said!

Here are excellent step by step instructions on how to do the swap (disregard the part that says '85 Mustangs)........................

Turbo Coupe Motor Swap for 85 Mustangs

Although either would work, just use the TC manifolds.
Mustang oil pan.
TC VAM & splice in the pigtail.
Computer from the '87 TC Auto.
Not sure of smog laws in Texas but there's virtually no power loss with the EGR functioning properly.
Here's your AFPR.........
Kirban Performance 1986-93 Mustang and Thunderbird Turbo Adjustable Fuel Regulator
Oil feed from Stinger or Forced4.
Oil return line from TF (if you can find one).
Turbo from TF (although they seem scarce right now). I have an extra T3, I'll send you a PM.

Go with the Starion I/C. You have it, may as well use it.
Really no need to rotate the intake. It's more for asthetic reasons and ease of I/C installation.

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I appreciate the replies. I have just ordered to adjustable fuel pressure regulator from the site you recommended. Does anyone know if 5.0 tubular k-members will work with 2.3s? Also there are a lot of companies that make boost gauges, who has accurate and dependable ones? Lastly, ho can I get a 140mph gauge plate to read correctly when I have the 85mph now? Thank you in advance. -Roy
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I doubt a 5.0 K-member would work 'cause the motor mounts are attached and 5.0 & 2.3 mounts are completely different.

Autometer makes quality boost gauges.

Not sure about the 140 mph speedo. I know it can be done though, guys put them in Mustangs and TC's all the time. Anyone? Anyone? Bueller??
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the k member will work, i know lots of guys the removed the 2.3 and droped in the 5.0 , although in doing a 2.3 to 5.0 swap and using the 5.0 k member . they look the same for the mount holes. big G
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just so you know the 8.8 posi is 5/8 of a inch longer in a t- bird so mustang axles won't fit in it ( my friend tried putting hardend mustang axles in his, there too long) and i had a 7.5 axle from a 85 t-bird in my 88 ou could see the tires stuck out a tad further than they should, but i loved that car after i stuck it in there, i just couldn't get rid of wheel hop, the quad shock mounts on a t bird are mounted too far forward, at least they were on mine. just giving a heads up.
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Hey guys, I'm installing the pulleys, accessories, manifolds, and I had a question about the distributor. Once I "stab" it in, what do I need to do either before or during to make sure I will be set when I need to adjust my timing? What do you guys recommend I do? The motor is rebuilt and I'm just piecing it back together. Thank you in advance!
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On the 140 mph speedometer just get one out of a non air bag car to match yours. Just use the speedometer only it will read correctly no problem.
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I have found one from an 87-89 5.0. Will everything plug up just fine? Any new speedo gears needed? Thanks for the previous post.
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Would anyone know where to find the cooler that is sandwiched between the block and the oil filter? I have one but there is quite a bit of rust scale inside. Any thoughts let me know.
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I probably got a extra one of the oil cooler. On the 140 speedometer. Just need the speedometer section only. Remove it from the 5.0 gauge unit and remove yours and swap. Don't use the 5.0 gauge unit. Tach is setup for a v-8. No wiring involved at all. No gear changes unless you change tire size or rearend gear ratio. Sorry best picture of mine I got.
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What kind of bits have you guys used to do some porting of the E6 manifold and upper and lower intakes? Anyone know where to get them. I have a Sutherlands, Home Depot, Lowes, and Ace hardware down here. Sears? Let me know what you think.
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