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Old 04-14-2009   #1 (permalink)
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Post 1992 2.3 timing problem? wont start.

Ok well i just finnished putting my motor back together after replacing a blown head gasket, and a bent exhaust valve. The other day i finnaly went to try start her up, and no-start. it turns over great, but i only get a very slight punch out of maby 2 cylinders. as far as i know my motor timing is set right. ive re-set it a few times as well as using 2 or 3 different firing orders, and i still get nothing.
any suggestions would be appreciated.

I will try post some compression resaults, and the firing orders ive used by tomorrow. Ive attached a couple pics of my timing below.

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Here is timing with and without the cover. For a turbo motor but same. 2.3T Tech Articles
Firing order. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/ford-firing-orders.html 1342 Do you have spark? Do you have fuel? Is distributor turning while cranking? Maybe this will help.
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In addition, don't sweat where the aux sprocket indicator is located, just sweat where to get the distributor aligned to an area where the rotor is aligned between Nr 1 and Nr 2 spark plug wire terminals. This will be at almost 10* BTDC already. Turn the Key.......Vrrrooom!
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ok well my car has the electronic dual spark. and as far as i know, theres no way to adjust that? and i set my timing a 0 tdc. is that correct? or should i have it set at 10* btdc?

I do have fuel, and spark - looks kinda weak though.
I have not takin a compression test yet, but i have the firing orders i used. I havent tried the 1 on that site "mg man 75" posted. i will give that 1 a shot. I listed the firing orders i have used below. thanks for the help.

3 1
2 4
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4 2
1 3
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3 1
2 4
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4 3
1 2
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I missed the dual plug part. I will be going now.........
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ok. I tried that firing order and still no-start. Ive done a compression test. the results are listed below. I also listed the results befor the head gasket change.

Befor
4 - 160
3 - 150
2 - 30
1 - 30

After
1 - 120 - 120
2 - 120 - 120
3 - 140 - 135
4 - 100 - 105
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Dah I missed the dual plug also. I guess in the pictures I couldn't open. But got luck and link had dual plug also. Guess I got luck. You had a blown head gasket between 3 and 4. Common to blow there. I got 2 old gaskets hanging in garage. Both blown between 3 and 4. Have you got spark on any? Also like you said can't adjust timing. Forget that. For the older 2.3. Word of advice. I learned hard way. Give year of car.
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sorry i labeled the new compression results backwards. it blew between 1 & 2. yeah, its a 1992. but the firing order for a 1993 seemed to give a little more punch - but still not much. I do have spark, but it looks a bit weak.
heres a link to thouse pics. thanks for the help.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f5...n/PICT1042.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f5...n/PICT1048.jpg
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coils should be:

3 1
2 4

4 2
1 3

i just changed the timing belt on my 92 2.3l and that's the order mine are in and it fired up like a champ. is it possible your icm is bad? or the coils? i know i ruined a coil once by soaking it in oil.
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well i tested boath coild, they boath have spark. driver side coil is strong, but the passanger side is a bit weak. I replaced the passinger side coil mabey 4/5 months ago.
I think thats the firing order i had set up befor. Im thinkin the motor timing is off. should the crank be set at 10* btdc? or is 0 tdc proper?
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crankshaft should be set at TC on the outer timing cover. camshaft should be at the middle line of the 3 marks on the inner timing cover. auxiliary sprocket doesn't matter.
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ok well thats what i set it at. I dont think the icm is bad. is there a way to check?
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well i finnaly got her runnin. turms out my timing was off by a couple notches. thanks for everyones help. its appreciated.
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