Thanks 93foxbody2.3 for this thread. I printed a copy and hope to soon use this on my car. Plus, will this also give the car a louder noise from the muffler? At least a noticeable noise?
Will what give it more noise from the muffler? All this? I doubt it. I work with this guy who has an s-10 4cyl. with duel exhaust and nice chrome tips. It sounds pretty good, not like a rice burning 4 cyl. I'm going to try it. Others have put a turn down pipe right after the muffler and said it sounded good and noticeably loud. I'm actually going to try that first.
O.k. I don't know about you but I don't have $1-$2k to Turbo up my 2.3.
um... I am a little Confused Where the hell did you find the price that it would be 1-2k to turbo your 2.3.... you can get a junkyard good runing motor for like 400 bucks out of a turbocoupe... The motor i just put in my Merkur was 150 bucks.... and my other friend did a swap in his mustang Vert for about 600 with everthing... So with all the money you just spent on a non turbo 2.3 you could have put a 2.3 turbo motor swap in your car....
just from my life experinces
Also I would like to add.. what is wrong with a factory 2.3 turbo motor? ever have one? They seem pretty stout to me.... the only reason I had to replace mine it because the asshat before me had his car to lean and overboosted it.... Junkyard motors aren't headaches if you know what you are doing...
um... I am a little Confused Where the hell did you find the price that it would be 1-2k to turbo your 2.3.... you can get a junkyard good runing motor for like 400 bucks out of a turbocoupe... The motor i just put in my Merkur was 150 bucks.... and my other friend did a swap in his mustang Vert for about 600 with everthing... So with all the money you just spent on a non turbo 2.3 you could have put a 2.3 turbo motor swap in your car....
just from my life experinces
Also I would like to add.. what is wrong with a factory 2.3 turbo motor? ever have one? They seem pretty stout to me.... the only reason I had to replace mine it because the asshat before me had his car to lean and overboosted it.... Junkyard motors aren't headaches if you know what you are doing...
Whatever the price is. Look I don't do used really. A used turbo motor is a problem most of the time. I read/hear about the turbo/boost problems. I hate headaches. Look i'll repost this thread for all the whine-asses.
Whatever the price is. Look I don't do used really. A used turbo motor is a problem most of the time. I read/hear about the turbo/boost problems. I hate headaches. Look i'll repost this thread for all the whine-asses.
whatever.... you brought an old car and do not expect a headache from time to time?... You throw a crazy high Price on a swap.. So it can be an excuse why not to do it. next question... what are you going to do when they stop making new parts?? Since you do not do the used thing?
I am not whining about anything its your own money you are throwing away.. But I do thank you for the info.. also nice notch you have there...
Those people who "don't like used parts" usually do so because they're too stupid to make used parts work, and too lazy to actually do any work pulling said parts from yard. It's just easier to swipe the credit card and wait for your parts to arrive. But when the compressor housing falls off your "new" turbo in the middle of driving because it was a glued on Chinese piece of sh1t, then maybe you might start seeing the error of your ways.
I would think this recession, amongst other things, would teach people how to get some real value out of their money and quit wasting their time on useless bullshit. Building a car is not as simple as swiping a credit card unless you are also paying a genius mechanic to assemble and tune everything for you. Can you afford that?
Really dude, you are a fool if you think a turbo newbie such as yourself can buy a pile of parts, bolt it together, and run 12s right out of the box with no problems whatsoever. It is much, much, much easier and better to pull a good running junkyard turbo motor out of the yard, bolt it in, get it running, get a few problems sorted out, then start bolting stuff on it one at a time.
Ford spent millions of dollars in R&D to make sure that junkyard motor was designed, machined, and built to last. These motors last 200,000+ miles easily even when abused. If you see a 2.3 in the junkyard its probably because the car got wrecked, the fuel pump went out, or the TFI module died, not because the motor is dead. Even if you buy the motor and get it home and it turns out to be completely f--ked up, you're only out $300, and you now have a big pile of spare parts, nuts, bolts, wiring, etc to use on another motor, so you really haven't lost much.
Those people who "don't like used parts" usually do so because they're too stupid to make used parts work, and too lazy to actually do any work pulling said parts from yard. It's just easier to swipe the credit card and wait for your parts to arrive. But when the compressor housing falls off your "new" turbo in the middle of driving because it was a glued on Chinese piece of sh1t, then maybe you might start seeing the error of your ways.
I would think this recession, amongst other things, would teach people how to get some real value out of their money and quit wasting their time on useless bullshit. Building a car is not as simple as swiping a credit card unless you are also paying a genius mechanic to assemble and tune everything for you. Can you afford that?
Really dude, you are a fool if you think a turbo newbie such as yourself can buy a pile of parts, bolt it together, and run 12s right out of the box with no problems whatsoever. It is much, much, much easier and better to pull a good running junkyard turbo motor out of the yard, bolt it in, get it running, get a few problems sorted out, then start bolting stuff on it one at a time.
Ford spent millions of dollars in R&D to make sure that junkyard motor was designed, machined, and built to last. These motors last 200,000+ miles easily even when abused. If you see a 2.3 in the junkyard its probably because the car got wrecked, the fuel pump went out, or the TFI module died, not because the motor is dead. Even if you buy the motor and get it home and it turns out to be completely f--ked up, you're only out $300, and you now have a big pile of spare parts, nuts, bolts, wiring, etc to use on another motor, so you really haven't lost much.
I paid $800 for the turbo coupe I posted up in my other thread. The engine is "supposed" to have only 1,000 miles on it (no documentation) and it certainly runs 100% flawless like a low mile engine should. Trans shifts completely perfect and rear does not make noise. Clutch is good too. The sellers don't use computers so it sat out on the side of the road for sale for over a month. Most people see an old beat up Thunderbird with a ratty interior and pass. I saw a good drive train for what I would probably pay to have a stock 2.3L rebuilt. Check ebay and craigs list. These cars are out there, not all the time but they do pop up. There was just a great running turbo coupe in Michigan not long ago for $500 cause the fenders and bumpers were taken off but the car was complete; and that was a buy it now price and it didn't sell. Would have run me $600 to ship to Maryland I was thinking about it. Only down side is you need to have a place to part the car out which not everyone has. I saw a complete running turbo coupe 5 speed sell on ebay in Delaware a few weeks back for $500. It was beat up but it ran and it was a 5 speed.
I had thought about rebuilding the stock 2.3L with nice pistons, ported head, and cam but looked at the cost plus my car is speed density and had to pretty much abandon that idea. Now I will have a turbo coupe drive train which has great potential to make real good power plus I will part the car out and get a nice chunk of that $800 back.
Some of these guys might be busting your balls and they could be a little nicer about it but they are steering you in the right direction.
Forgot to mention, turbos are easily to evaluate to see if they are good, right there in the yard. Just pull the intake nose off so that you can see and reach the compressor wheel. Looks for nicks or scoring in the wheel and/or inside of the housing around the wheel. Shaft should spin freely and have NO forward-back play and very little side-side play. Wheel should not contact housing when wiggled side to side. Some oil in the intake tract is normal (due to PCV) but not huge amounts (possibly due to bad turbo shaft seal.) If it passes this test then I'd run it any day. If the turbo is good then who cares if the rest of the motor turns out to be trash? At least you got a good turbo and other parts to make up for the $300 or less you spent.
Ha horse crap I'm workin on putting a DOHC cam in mine as we speak. Modded and ready to go with only a few more steps and my 2.3l Turbo will have DOHC :P
Ha horse crap I'm workin on putting a DOHC cam in mine as we speak. Modded and ready to go with only a few more steps and my 2.3l Turbo will have DOHC :P
LOL!!!!! i dont know much about cars but i've learned much about a s s h o l e s, they're every where. They're all just waiting for someone to make a simple mistake and they jump right on it to correct that person and make a fool of them. They thrive on that to make themselves feel better, how pathetic. Instead of respecting someones mistake and "HELPING" or "GUIDING" the wrongfull in their mistakes using their "SUPERIOR KNOLEDGE", forgetting what this website is all about. "AMEN" High five to my self!!!!!!!
i hate brown nosing but you sir are correct!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by shiftless
Forgot to mention, turbos are easily to evaluate to see if they are good, right there in the yard. Just pull the intake nose off so that you can see and reach the compressor wheel. Looks for nicks or scoring in the wheel and/or inside of the housing around the wheel. Shaft should spin freely and have NO forward-back play and very little side-side play. Wheel should not contact housing when wiggled side to side. Some oil in the intake tract is normal (due to PCV) but not huge amounts (possibly due to bad turbo shaft seal.) If it passes this test then I'd run it any day. If the turbo is good then who cares if the rest of the motor turns out to be trash? At least you got a good turbo and other parts to make up for the $300 or less you spent.
I COMPLETELY AGREE with you, what?, theres brown stuff on my nose? LOL!!! i agree with you but if people are trying to go faster and not spend much $$$$, why not just go with a 5.0L? they're everywhere and they'll have much more HP than four bangers w/ or w/o turbo. Turbo IS fun though.
LOL!!!!! i dont know much about cars but i've learned much about a s s h o l e s, they're every where. They're all just waiting for someone to make a simple mistake and they jump right on it to correct that person and make a fool of them. They thrive on that to make themselves feel better, how pathetic. Instead of respecting someones mistake and "HELPING" or "GUIDING" the wrongfull in their mistakes using their "SUPERIOR KNOLEDGE", forgetting what this website is all about. "AMEN" High five to my self!!!!!!!
I guess this is pointed at me. Well, I will say one thing, and that is that I have done more than my fair share to help others here get their cars fixed and/or running correctly.
I am a little Confused Where the hell did you find the price that it would be 1-2k to turbo your 2.3.... you can get a junkyard good runing motor for like 400 bucks out of a turbocoupe... The motor i just put in my Merkur was 150 bucks.... and my other friend did a swap in his mustang Vert for about 600 with everthing... So with all the money you just spent on a non turbo 2.3 you could have put a 2.3 turbo motor swap in your car....
whatever.... you brought an old car and do not expect a headache from time to time?... You throw a crazy high Price on a swap.. So it can be an excuse why not to do it. next question... what are you going to do when they stop making new parts?? Since you do not do the used thing?
High five to my self!!!!!!!
