im in texas in the suburbs on wide 4 lane roads and freeway acess roads... i do whip it hard in the walmart parking lot all the time tho haha i hit a donut the other day
and as far as driving ive been driving on the roads in cali since i was 14 and driving missions to the bay since i was 15
i have tons of driving experience both on and off roads with dirtbikes quads and 4 wheeling. im not some novice kid out here causing trouble in the city.
and there no telephone poles there all underground here
LOL.... well if I were you, I'd first and foremost UPGRADE your suspension & brakes. Not only do the 2.3L Mustangs have terrible suspension, but the drums in the back are pointless. Do the 8.8 rear end swap, 5 lug disc brakes all around, and a sports suspension of shocks/struts and springs. And well I can't really see the rims in your pic, but they appear to be some chromey looking thing... its a 2.3L not a caddy or benz.
I'm not goin to lie, yes, I've had my play time on the road, BUT that's with an amazing suspension backing me up and keeping me safe. I can do sharp turns at 30-40 mph without any squeal of the tires.... that 8.8 rear axle with limited slip is sexy
Nevertheless, I must add in as everyone else has, you will eventually hit something or worse, someone.
Why would you put an 8.8 behind an N/A 2.3. Doesn't make any sense. Also trac-loc is useless for a 100 HP 2.3 and could get you in trouble in the rain.
BTW, if you think the drums in the back are "pointless" you should try disabling them and see how the car stops then.
I put the 8.8 in my 2.3L with the intention of putting in a 5.0L, haven't done so because, well my career is more important to me than swapping an engine lol. Also, I'd rather have both wheels in the back spinning forward as I'm going around the corner, rather tan having one spinning forward and the other doing what it pleases. How would trac-loc pose a problem in the rain? LOL I'm from Sacramento, CA (where it rains quite often) and for the years I lived there and owned my Mustang there, I had absolutely NO issues when it rained. If I punched it to hard at a stoplight when its raining, yes my car would hydroplane, however it was in a Straight Line, unlike having the original rear end.
The reason i said drums in the back of a 2.3L is "pointless" is because this kid is swinging his little Mustang around like its some kind of muscle car. If his intentions are to just beat the crap outta his car, why not make a small investment and get better handling and braking out of it? Plus is he does decide to swap to a V8, then he's already got the beefy brakes.
How would Trac-Loc hurt in the rain? LOL you must not have a whole lot of spirited driving experience. A locker or posi (if built to performance specs) will put your ass in the ditch during a rainstorm in a hurry. Same reason a spool is an absolute no-no to drive during the rain.
Also, if you are hot rodding around and stomping on the gas while flying around corners, (stuff you can get away with when only one wheel is spinning madly and the other is keeping traction so the car doesn't slide) if you "upgrade" to a posi both wheels are likely to lose traction--then you're screwed because that ass end is going to go straight out.
Let's not forget that you're costing yourself gas mileage because the 8.8 does have more parasitic loss than the 7.5.
Your comments about brakes also indicate that you really don't know jack sh1t about brakes, probably just some stuff you've read online and no real hands on experience. I've built and driven many Mustangs. The four cylinder brakes like the ones on the poster's 87-up model, if in good condition, are plenty enough to stop a strong V8 car from any reasonable (or unreasonable) speed. I had a 12 sec 351W Mustang I built using a new set of those four cyl brakes and it had no trouble hauling the car down from 110 MPH trap speeds, or from higher speeds on the interstate. In fact the front brakes on those four cylinder cars is the exact same size and dimensions as the brakes that came factory on earlier V8 Mustangs.
ALL of the Mustang rear drum brakes are the same size, and that's because the rear brakes are not nearly as important as the front brakes. When you slam on the brakes, the car leans forward and transfers weight off the rear. The front brakes thus manage 70% of the car's braking effort. The other 30% is easily handled by the stock drum brakes.
Really, I seriously promise you, the engineers who built this car DID know what they were doing on sizing the brakes, but thanks for your armchair input.
BTW, since we have established that you don't know what the hell you're talking about, could you please refrain from giving any more idiot advice to those newbs (most of them in today's economy) who dont have their daddy's limitless credit cards to spend on bullshit bad advice they receive from these forums? Thanks, your efforts to make this message board one worth actually going to for advice are appreciated.
How would Trac-Loc hurt in the rain? LOL you must not have a whole lot of spirited driving experience. A locker or posi (if built to performance specs) will put your ass in the ditch during a rainstorm in a hurry. Same reason a spool is an absolute no-no to drive during the rain.
Also, if you are hot rodding around and stomping on the gas while flying around corners, (stuff you can get away with when only one wheel is spinning madly and the other is keeping traction so the car doesn't slide) if you "upgrade" to a posi both wheels are likely to lose traction--then you're screwed because that ass end is going to go straight out.
Let's not forget that you're costing yourself gas mileage because the 8.8 does have more parasitic loss than the 7.5.
Your comments about brakes also indicate that you really don't know jack sh1t about brakes, probably just some stuff you've read online and no real hands on experience. I've built and driven many Mustangs. The four cylinder brakes like the ones on the poster's 87-up model, if in good condition, are plenty enough to stop a strong V8 car from any reasonable (or unreasonable) speed. I had a 12 sec 351W Mustang I built using a new set of those four cyl brakes and it had no trouble hauling the car down from 110 MPH trap speeds, or from higher speeds on the interstate. In fact the front brakes on those four cylinder cars is the exact same size and dimensions as the brakes that came factory on earlier V8 Mustangs.
ALL of the Mustang rear drum brakes are the same size, and that's because the rear brakes are not nearly as important as the front brakes. When you slam on the brakes, the car leans forward and transfers weight off the rear. The front brakes thus manage 70% of the car's braking effort. The other 30% is easily handled by the stock drum brakes.
Really, I seriously promise you, the engineers who built this car DID know what they were doing on sizing the brakes, but thanks for your armchair input.
BTW, since we have established that you don't know what the hell you're talking about, could you please refrain from giving any more idiot advice to those newbs (most of them in today's economy) who dont have their daddy's limitless credit cards to spend on bullshit bad advice they receive from these forums? Thanks, your efforts to make this message board one worth actually going to for advice are appreciated.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
your absolutely right! i dont know ANYTHING about Mustangs! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....
just had to get that out of the way, anyway unfortunately i dont spend all my time and effort working on cars (mustangs in particular). so yes, in that aspect your right, i dont know EVERYTHING there is to know about cars in general....
see all this talk about drum brakes, yet you have said nothing about the rear disc brakes... why is that? have you owned a vehicle that had disc brakes or only dealt with cars that have disc in front and drums in back? if you answer is the latter, wouldn't your statement be somewhat bias? i just don't understand your novel about your 351W though... that gets me laughing. why? well all your talking about is briefly the drums and then about the front discs.... again i must ask, have you ever owned a vehicle, muscle car or not, that had discs in the back? LOL
yea the engineers i suppose knew how to put brakes and a suspension in an ECONOMY CAR. but hmmmm, do you think they would put such a beefed up suspension in a 2.3L economy car? hahahaha no they wouldn't because there is no point! however.... if you don't mind reading the specs of an 84-86 SVO Mustang, let me know about the suspension they used (rear axle, brakes, shocks/struts, etc) please school me on the SVO now too.... yes a 7.5" rear axle, not an 8.8 BUT nevertheless a what? LIMITED SLIP Trac-Loc Axle? Four wheel disc brakes, hmmmm.
im simply explaining to the newb ripping a new one in his 2.3 that an upgraded suspension will be safer. why would i do such a thing? because i have felt the difference between a sloppy stock suspension from ford and an upgraded suspension with performance parts.
stock suspension in your little 2.3L mustang and you take a corner at 35 mph, your going to fishtail. take that same corner with posi rear end lower springs and aftermarket shocks/struts, you won't slip.
obviouslythe front brakes are bigger, when are they not? lol.
case in point, you mentioned earlier (hey take out the rear drums and see how well you stop, roflcakes) what would happen if you were to take out the front disc brakes and run just rear drums vs rear discs? yes this is a hypothetical situation, but don't be a b1tch and avoid the question(s).
and finally, since you wanted to write so much about useless information, just fyi, i dont have a dad that "has a limitless credit card" i mean rather than explaining my family history to you, ill put it simple; i lived in sacramento with my parents until about 2 years ago, now im in LA in the film business. i dont need my parents money nor do i want it; i make plenty of money as it is.
your absolutely right! i dont know ANYTHING about Mustangs! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....
just had to get that out of the way, anyway unfortunately i dont spend all my time and effort working on cars (mustangs in particular). so yes, in that aspect your right, i dont know EVERYTHING there is to know about cars in general....
see all this talk about drum brakes, yet you have said nothing about the rear disc brakes... why is that? have you owned a vehicle that had disc brakes or only dealt with cars that have disc in front and drums in back? if you answer is the latter, wouldn't your statement be somewhat bias? i just don't understand your novel about your 351W though... that gets me laughing. why? well all your talking about is briefly the drums and then about the front discs.... again i must ask, have you ever owned a vehicle, muscle car or not, that had discs in the back? LOL
yea the engineers i suppose knew how to put brakes and a suspension in an ECONOMY CAR. but hmmmm, do you think they would put such a beefed up suspension in a 2.3L economy car? hahahaha no they wouldn't because there is no point! however.... if you don't mind reading the specs of an 84-86 SVO Mustang, let me know about the suspension they used (rear axle, brakes, shocks/struts, etc) please school me on the SVO now too.... yes a 7.5" rear axle, not an 8.8 BUT nevertheless a what? LIMITED SLIP Trac-Loc Axle? Four wheel disc brakes, hmmmm.
im simply explaining to the newb ripping a new one in his 2.3 that an upgraded suspension will be safer. why would i do such a thing? because i have felt the difference between a sloppy stock suspension from ford and an upgraded suspension with performance parts.
stock suspension in your little 2.3L mustang and you take a corner at 35 mph, your going to fishtail. take that same corner with posi rear end lower springs and aftermarket shocks/struts, you won't slip.
obviouslythe front brakes are bigger, when are they not? lol.
case in point, you mentioned earlier (hey take out the rear drums and see how well you stop, roflcakes) what would happen if you were to take out the front disc brakes and run just rear drums vs rear discs? yes this is a hypothetical situation, but don't be a b1tch and avoid the question(s).
and finally, since you wanted to write so much about useless information, just fyi, i dont have a dad that "has a limitless credit card" i mean rather than explaining my family history to you, ill put it simple; i lived in sacramento with my parents until about 2 years ago, now im in LA in the film business. i dont need my parents money nor do i want it; i make plenty of money as it is.
right on i lived in sacramento until 5 months ago. your familiar with the scene out there then
ONE OF THE FEW PLACES!!!!!! youll actually find where mustangs and camaros beat out hondas and acuras. northern cali is real proud of muscle cars. my 2.3 is a transplant away of being that, might as well practice sliding around in my sloppy shocks and bouncing around like a boat everytime i hit a pothole, im 19, dont hate just let me live a little
