Ok I'm going to jump in on this. what I have read now I may be getting this wrong so tact jump in if I am but the HP isn't just because of the CF. He also has a engine that he has built up and bored out to a 5.0 so with out the his CF he is already in the high 300s so it wouldn't take much boost to reach that point. Now the point also has been made that its how the car is set up. Now I don't have a supercharger yet and I was leaning to Whipple or KB but what I have read makes since to me. I have 4:10s i launch is 2200 now because of my gears I spend alot of time in the high rpm range so Ill have boost stored up may not be at full but it will get me off the line and with in 60' Ill be up to full boost. Then if I'm driven on the high way when I'm doing 65mph I'm running at 2800rpm. So then again I'm not at full but but I'm not that fare from it. And cost all come into my roll of picking a CF because they are cheaper for the most part and with the left over money that I have from getting a Vortech rather then a Whipple I can get myself the tires needed to handle my new found HP. I'm not saying one system is better then the other I'm just saying it all matters how your car is built.
do some more research and compare the procharger to vortech and paxton. The Vortech has a GREAT system but I am not sure on there unit specs. I know that Prochargers P1 unit is slightly better then Paxtons on the induction of the Unit. The propeller is slightly better as well. But i did hear that Vortech came out with a new unit as well. The down fall about Procharger is that the surge valve that comes stock really sucks when you start making over 500hp and a intercooler upgrade is also a good thing for Procharger to get the sheet metal one. Compare the numbers and the flow rate for each system before you commit your self to any purchase.
It was from my old dyno sheet that we calculated out
You can't do that. If you assume that you make exactly 22 HP from every psi for every 500 RPM then your dyno graph would be a perfectly straight line. You can't extrapolate like that. When you do this you assume that your HP is perfectly distributed thoughout the power band. The fact is, you are making it almost exclusively at the top end.
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For me i can care less about instant boost it is more of an annoyance to me then fun.
OK, so if anyone out there is looking to buy a supercharger and instant power is an annoyance to you, then yes, by all means you should get a centrifugal supercharger.
If you like the feeling of having a torquey bad a$$ big block in your car then I would recommend a twin screw.
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2005 Mustang GT with 04 Cobra iron block, 300 ci, Kenne Bell 2.6l twin screw, P&P S3 Heads, SS valves, Comp S3 cams, Currie 9+ 9" rear end and DS (coming soon), Hurst shifter, BMR K-member, A-arms, LCAs & UCA, JBA long tubes & mid-pipe, Accel COPs, GT500 fuel pumps, much more... 659 RWHP, 598 Tq @ 12 psi & 5800 RPM
not really because this is like walking into a SVT Forum and telling them my car is built better its not a win win situation there are far more T/S lovers then Cent lovers so its just a never ending argument that i would prefer to be done with.
I think both have their benefits... It just depends on what you want to use your car for.
Can't we all just get along.
You can't do that. If you assume that you make exactly 22 HP from every psi for every 500 RPM then your dyno graph would be a perfectly straight line. You can't extrapolate like that. When you do this you assume that your HP is perfectly distributed thoughout the power band. The fact is, you are making it almost exclusively at the top end.
OK, so if anyone out there is looking to buy a supercharger and instant power is an annoyance to you, then yes, by all means you should get a centrifugal supercharger.
If you like the feeling of having a torquey bad a$$ big block in your car then I would recommend a twin screw.
when I go up to WA to reg my car and visit my dad your going to have to make a trip down to vancouver and ride in my car and I think you might change your mind about how a well built cent feels and how bad it actually does kick you in the butt on the street.
when I go up to WA to reg my car and visit my dad your going to have to make a trip down to vancouver and ride in my car and I think you might change your mind about how a well built cent feels and how bad it actually does kick you in the butt on the street.
tact_out, I'd love to do that. I'll buy you a beer and we'll swap cars and go for a drive. Oh, wait, I'll buy the beer after the drive.
Better yet, come another 90 minutes north and I'll treat you to a night of drag racing at my home track. It's got cool air, low elevation and up to 1% more oxygen in the air than some other tracks (it's in the middle of a dense forest). That all means FAST.
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2005 Mustang GT with 04 Cobra iron block, 300 ci, Kenne Bell 2.6l twin screw, P&P S3 Heads, SS valves, Comp S3 cams, Currie 9+ 9" rear end and DS (coming soon), Hurst shifter, BMR K-member, A-arms, LCAs & UCA, JBA long tubes & mid-pipe, Accel COPs, GT500 fuel pumps, much more... 659 RWHP, 598 Tq @ 12 psi & 5800 RPM
Not sure if I am going to be doing any racing sense I am driving to WA but PI in portland also has a track and car shows ALOT. The only reason why I am not sure if I am going to drag is if any thing breaks I am SOL on the drive home and my mechanic is in Fresno.
Not sure if I am going to be doing any racing sense I am driving to WA but PI in portland also has a track and car shows ALOT. The only reason why I am not sure if I am going to drag is if any thing breaks I am SOL on the drive home and my mechanic is in Fresno.
OK, we'll just do the car swapping beer drinking thing. Although I do like the idea of you and I getting together at the track and slaying Corvettes and Camaros all night. It would just prove that two kinds of superchargers can kick Chevy a$$.
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2005 Mustang GT with 04 Cobra iron block, 300 ci, Kenne Bell 2.6l twin screw, P&P S3 Heads, SS valves, Comp S3 cams, Currie 9+ 9" rear end and DS (coming soon), Hurst shifter, BMR K-member, A-arms, LCAs & UCA, JBA long tubes & mid-pipe, Accel COPs, GT500 fuel pumps, much more... 659 RWHP, 598 Tq @ 12 psi & 5800 RPM
do some more research and compare the procharger to vortech and paxton. The Vortech has a GREAT system but I am not sure on there unit specs. I know that Prochargers P1 unit is slightly better then Paxtons on the induction of the Unit. The propeller is slightly better as well. But i did hear that Vortech came out with a new unit as well. The down fall about Procharger is that the surge valve that comes stock really sucks when you start making over 500hp and a intercooler upgrade is also a good thing for Procharger to get the sheet metal one. Compare the numbers and the flow rate for each system before you commit your self to any purchase.
My Procharger P1SC is incredible. I got 447 rwhp with everything else stock and no issues yet, but it's been in the body shop on account of me t-boning a concrete guard rail when I let it get away from me when I overthrottled. The power surge is not instantaneous but still awesome -- you have to be ready.
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'06 Redfire GT Auto, Flowmaster axle-backs, rear window louvres, matching mirror covers, ATI Procharger S/C, installed and tuned by Travis Franklin at Gearheads.
I was exactly in your position two years ago, shopping and wishing for my first poweradder. I did all my research (many months) and decided on the Kenne Bell (@9psi). Installed it two weeks ago (my wife and I did the entire job) and it's everything I had expected. If you are concerned about Ford warranty and want to stay in the civilized, drivable and reliable realm (i.e. not intent on hardcore racing or trying to keep up with the biggest HP on the forums), I think you would have to seriously consider the RoushCharger. From what I can discern they have a very strong warranty program, a conservative tune and reliable equipment. I actually have an 'authentic' Roush Mustang but chose the KB over RoushCharger as I felt the twin-screw was the best option for my needs. The amount of information available for the KB (check the KB website, FAQs, etc), the level of engineering, KB reputation, etc. made it a fairly easy choice for me.
