hello to all, I am relatively new to this web site (joined like an hour ago or less). I have a 2006 Ford Mustang GT Automatic with 10,000 miles on it. Got it last summer and is currently stored for the winter. I am quite satisfied with its power but recently i've had a lil money laying around so i was thinking about adding a power-adder. I've actually visited tons of websites and done alot of research but theres just nothing better then getting opinions from actually humans ha ha. As far as i know, the Whipple supercharger H.O. intercooler seems like my best bet according to some. I've looked at FRPP's superchargers as well and the 400 h.p. kit looks good but 500 h.p. would be better, only problem they don't offer to manuals. This car is not a daily driver, i keep it in good shape, but i would like to make it last quite awhile and if possible keep the warranty till expired which is next year. Now if anyones got comments are recommendations it would be much appreciated. I am a noob to warn ya, but i am learning so have patience for me. Thank you!
Also, don't discount the Kenne Bell, Roush, and Saleen superchargers! I really, really want a Kenne Bell with a MMR 1150 lower end, but I need to take care of some other things before I can get to that point...
A year ago I was a complete newbie at modding a car. Now I'm only 98% newbie. I had a Procharger until very recently and was very satisfied although I cannot claim it's any better than the other flavors. But while you're investigating going forced induction, you might at least take a peak at turbochargers. Can't claim they're better either since my car is still in a 1000 pieces. So much depends on what your goals/driving habits are.
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06GT, being rebuilt for dragracing only 2008 race season, 10.0 at 136 mph, 1/4
Do not go turbo unless you plan on building your motor. A turbo system will make ALOT of power which is a good thing for some people but could mean bad things for your stock block.
I have a Procharger and I LOVE IT. The only thing is that I wish I would of bought the F-1R which is not street legal but smogging my car is the last thing I am worried about.
Twinscrews are good if your car is a street driver and you want instant horse power. The twinscrew will probably be more fun for driving around town and stomping on it. The best Twinscrew in my mind is a Kenne Bell and I would get a large size blower. You may think you dont need it now but in a year trust me you will wish you did.
I prefer centrifugal because they are not instant boost so you can launch with out worry about breaking loose and they make BIG power you can also supplement the lack of lowend boost with good suspension and gears.
Both to me are great to have. I feel that a centrifugal will beat a twin screw with the same boost. My friend has a KB with 510 RWHP at 10psi and we have the same tuners and every thing are cars are all most identical with the exception of company's that we went with. Well he will have me off the line but after that I pull him 2 car lengths every time.
No matter what you can not go wrong just make sure you do it right and dont try to save a buck just buy every thing to do it right the first time and I can not stress this enough that you build your block. With stock rods I would not go over 430hp
interesting, i was possibly hoping to get around 440-400 rwhp but is that pushing it also? alot of people i've talked to say those motors stock can take up to 500 rwhp pretty easily, even though i think they're full of sh*t
they are full of it. I am sure there are some that handle it but its all in statistics. say every 2 out 10 motors at 500 wont blow lol I would not want to risk it. I have seen a roush blower blow up a stock engine before on 8psi. Though it was 8 psi it only pushed out 435 rwhp. So just be careful I would say no to any supercharger other then a Saleen on a stock block. I dont like roots just because they build ALOT of heat and the Saleens are known to be safe.
but if you go that rout your subjected to a small blower.
i see, well lately i've talked to a lot of guys and many have suggested a whipple blower H/O intercooled with about 10 psi. Many of the guys say i should just get a conservative tune and i should be fine with stock ends. Although whipple also offers a different supercharger with a lil less toys with it but intercooled and that runs only at 7 psi....honestly i think im probably gonna go wtih whipple if anything just cuz Ford trusted them to put their s/c in the GT500. But if ya got any other suggested let me know
If you really wanted my opinion I would not buy a supercharger.
I would build up your block and buy a turbo. More efficient way to go.
My opinion that spending close to 7000$ on supercharger for just over 100hp is foolish and yes 7000 even with the cheaper kits add the cost of labor.
you spend that much money when the potential of it is limitless . Though other parts will not handle that power but I know the tranny and rear end will handle 550 rwhp. So why not spend 3,000 now building your block to handle the power and change your compression and then get the full use out of your supercharger.
I will tell you this now. Right now 420hp feels good but after you get use to it, its nothing. 550 to me is slow. I have gotten use to my car and I kick my self EVERY day for not getting a bigger blower. Now I have to spend 1500 just to upgrade my blower to a larger size. Which you can not do with a whipple for that price.
If I could do it all over again I would of built my block up which would of saved me at least 2 grand because I blew up my old block and my rods caused damage to my heads, starter, rear end and some other parts that had to get fixed when they flew out of my block. My car was down for 7 months because I just spent 7k on a supercharger and now I need 6k to fix my mistakes.
Get your compression right and your block built that is the best advise I can give you and get a larger blower. That way you wont ever have to spend the money twice and will not be subjected to limits.
Question about all of this, if im only keeping it on 8psi.. should i buy the kit first.. and then save to build my motor?? Does anyone have a rough estimate on how much itll cost in engine upgrades to support 8-15psi w/o blowing it all up..?
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100 HP? What? Where did you hear that? My polished Kenne Bell cost $6109 installed and can take me up to 850 RWHP.
Yes but only if your engine is built with a stock block any thing over 400rwhp is pushing your block, at 450rwhp your block blowing up or not is based on how well your tune is.
ok 6109 not 7000 then. Sounds like you go a good deal then.
If you read what was said with out building your block your are spending 6109 on a car that will at most make 430rwhp and be safe. I would not go over 410rwhp from a dyno dynamics type of dyno. Which should be around 435 on a dyno jet.
for 6 grand you can get a 1 piece drive shaft. Full exhaust, tires, LCA, UCA, an alum flywheel, new clutch and shifter and a custom tune and will probably be able to beat a supercharged mustang in a race on the strip and will have a so called bullet from block. Then you save up the rest for the supercharger and pull 600 to the wheels.
I am just giving other options then just go out and getting a supercharger they are fun and cool but spending that much money to only utilize probably 1/3 of its potential does not make sense to me
Question about all of this, if im only keeping it on 8psi.. should i buy the kit first.. and then save to build my motor?? Does anyone have a rough estimate on how much itll cost in engine upgrades to support 8-15psi w/o blowing it all up..?
I put 20,000 miles on my stock motor at 8 psi and loved every second of it before I had the opportunity to forge my motor. I have no doubt it would have kept going with no problems.
If you can be satisfied with 8 psi there is no reason to build the motor forst if you have a good, safe tune. Of course it may be better to forge first, just not necessary in this car.
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2005 Mustang GT with 04 Cobra iron block, 300 ci, Kenne Bell 2.6l twin screw, P&P S3 Heads, SS valves, Comp S3 cams, Currie 9+ 9" rear end and DS (coming soon), Hurst shifter, BMR K-member, A-arms, LCAs & UCA, JBA long tubes & mid-pipe, Accel COPs, GT500 fuel pumps, much more... 659 RWHP, 598 Tq @ 12 psi & 5800 RPM