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Old 12-03-2008   #16 (permalink)
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the other NSR cams will see between 20 and 30. .
That's a pretty good $/hp ratio as long as you are putting them in your self.

A lot better than a set of shorties, that's for sure.
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Can anyone justify why this special wedging tool is needed for the timing chain? I just don't see any reason this is necessary at all if you mark the chain. It could be moved back to the same spot if it somehow moved.
Don't do it without the wedge. If you do, and the chain slips off the crank, you will have no idea if it's still in time and the cover will have to come off.

How soon you going to do them? You pay shipping both ways and you can borrow mine. Very light wgt. Or I can take a pic, trace it and measurements and you could make one out of hard wood with some 8-32 threaded rod.

I won't be doing my personal ones until late January, and have none lined up to do until spring. Cars are parked around here until the Robins return.
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Cars are parked around here until the Robins return.
Oh, poo. Why did you have to remind me?

I start taking mine all apart this weekend. I was on the phone all day today ordering parts. I'd much rather be driving.
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NSR cams are not going to give you 40 rwhp. 25-30 tops. All cams can be swapped with the heads on the car, including those that require valve springs.
Thanks I didn't know that I was always told that you have to remove the heads.
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Don't do it without the wedge. If you do, and the chain slips off the crank, you will have no idea if it's still in time and the cover will have to come off.

How soon you going to do them? You pay shipping both ways and you can borrow mine. Very light wgt. Or I can take a pic, trace it and measurements and you could make one out of hard wood with some 8-32 threaded rod.

I won't be doing my personal ones until late January, and have none lined up to do until spring. Cars are parked around here until the Robins return.
Thanks for the shipping offer but I don't borrow tools if I can help it. That would be very cool if you could trace it out tho or just measure the dimensions of the block. It looks fairly simple to make. I'll be doing this in a few weeks so no hurry. I won't make any comments about being able to drive in the winter time for fear of bad karma
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I haven't seen anyone getting 80HP out of ANY cam install. Maybe when you add the nitrous you'll get that much extra tho.



25-30 is what I have seen from quite a bit of researching.
Stage 4 Comp Cams Have an increase in 75 HP.
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Stage 4 Comp Cams Have an increase in 75 HP.

Stage 4 is for blowers right ? I don't even see a stage 4 comp cam for the 3 valve. Any links ?
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Maybe with a set of ported/polished heads but no way with just a cam.
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why even waste the time and money to do a NSR cam? seems pointless, do it and do it right do SPR. who ever heard of doing a cam swap and not doing springs? with a NSR cam youd be LUCKY to see 20rwhp-peak. Sounds like te old perverbial "speed on a budget"....it doesnt work, it never will.
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why even waste the time and money to do a NSR cam? seems pointless, do it and do it right do SPR. who ever heard of doing a cam swap and not doing springs? with a NSR cam youd be LUCKY to see 20rwhp-peak. Sounds like te old perverbial "speed on a budget"....it doesnt work, it never will.

I see it the other way around. Why spend the extra time and money to do the SPR for another 5HP. PLus the risk goes up with a more aggressive cam.
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I see it the other way around. Why spend the extra time and money to do the SPR for another 5HP. PLus the risk goes up with a more aggressive cam.
I'm with you Kurgan... I've run FRPP NSR on two stangs this year.
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I've had two different cams on my car. I see little reason to do cams unless you do the heads too.
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I've had two different cams on my car. I see little reason to do cams unless you do the heads too.

20HP and a kick ass sound is reason enough for me
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20HP and a kick ass sound is reason enough for me
$ for $ it's not a very cost effective 20 hp though.
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$ for $ it's not a very cost effective 20 hp though.

Why not? It's more cost effective than longtubes which net about the same HP. A good set of longtubes is going to run the same price with much more intensive labor involved(and higher labor cost). Either way I'd get a dyno tune so to me they are equal mods but I get the sound with the cams.
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