[Kiddigretarzz]

I was wondering if anyone has gone with long tube headers with 62mm Hellion turbo system /no catalic converters, or any other turbo system for that matter ? Would they clear the existing plumbing pipes underneath, would they do any good with the turbo, could I do with out X or H pipes and could I expect more hp gains ?
If not, would shorty´s be any better option for me regarding more flow and hp ?
I don´t want to buy them and ship all the way to Iceland to find out I won´t need them.

[sqidd]

Originally Posted by Kiddigretarzz

I was wondering if anyone has gone with long tube headers with 62mm Hellion turbo system /no catalic converters, or any other turbo system for that matter ? Would they clear the existing plumbing pipes underneath, would they do any good with the turbo, could I do with out X or H pipes and could I expect more hp gains ?
If not, would shorty´s be any better option for me regarding more flow and hp ?
I don´t want to buy them and ship all the way to Iceland to find out I won´t need them.

You would never get them to fit. And the performance advantage if any would be minimal.

[toorbeenee]

Originally Posted by Kiddigretarzz

I was wondering if anyone has gone with long tube headers with 62mm Hellion turbo system /no catalic converters, or any other turbo system for that matter ? Would they clear the existing plumbing pipes underneath, would they do any good with the turbo, could I do with out X or H pipes and could I expect more hp gains ?
If not, would shorty´s be any better option for me regarding more flow and hp ?
I don´t want to buy them and ship all the way to Iceland to find out I won´t need them.

hi there iceland man...well i dont think you will be able to use long tubes with turbo...,,i am using shorty's my self with the original pipes no problem so far and i dont think X or H will make a differance for you since you will be runnin a turbo charger...all the best on yours project

[Kiddigretarzz]

Originally Posted by toorbeenee

hi there iceland man...well i dont think you will be able to use long tubes with turbo...,,i am using shorty's my self with the original pipes no problem so far and i dont think X or H will make a differance for you since you will be runnin a turbo charger...all the best on yours project

Are you running a turbo system with those shorty´s ?

Well I´m already running this turbo system on my car with 9psi of boost and it does not look as if long tubes would fit with all the piping under there already. Just been wondering what other mods would be available except for new or modded heads and bigger turbine.

[toorbeenee]

Originally Posted by Kiddigretarzz

Are you running a turbo system with those shorty´s ?

Well I´m already running this turbo system on my car with 9psi of boost and it does not look as if long tubes would fit with all the piping under there already. Just been wondering what other mods would be available except for new or modded heads and bigger turbine.

well you can run the shortys on them....but bigger turbine that means change of internals....maybe you should think about forged kit for your car before you think about small things like headers...
you can do the heads by your self...port them...change springs ...maybe valves with new cam and you are set to go

[Kiddigretarzz]

Originally Posted by toorbeenee

well you can run the shortys on them....but bigger turbine that means change of internals....maybe you should think about forged kit for your car before you think about small things like headers...
you can do the heads by your self...port them...change springs ...maybe valves with new cam and you are set to go

Well I´ve already got a new forged stroker short block from Livernois Motorsports with a lower 9.1:1 (turbo) compression. So I guess I´ve opened up the possibility to go for big HP numbers, but that always requires also changing things like fuel pumps, axles, gears, drive shafts, clutch etc....

[jonballi]

You could also add nitrous

[stlwagon]

It can be done but would require some custom fabrication...

[Kiddigretarzz]

ok...but could I expect any benefits from shorty´s accept from nicer looks ?
Don´t know about the nitrous even though it´s always tempting.... the Turbo alone has been enough hazzle so far.

[stlwagon]

Originally Posted by Kiddigretarzz

ok...but could I expect any benefits from shorty´s accept from nicer looks ?
Don´t know about the nitrous even though it´s always tempting.... the Turbo alone has been enough hazzle so far.

No significant measurable gains from shorties.

[stlwagon]

Originally Posted by Kiddigretarzz

ok...but could I expect any benefits from shorty´s accept from nicer looks ?
Don´t know about the nitrous even though it´s always tempting.... the Turbo alone has been enough hazzle so far.

No significant measurable gains from shorties..

[FREAKNAZTY]

imo save your cash you got a built block coming throw more boost at it ...... heads will get you 50-80 hp for 3k + and from what i've read so far hell your no where near topping out that turbo SPIN IT lol or if your really feeling froggy step up to a 67 or 76 ..... i will be pushing close to 6 easy with my 67 on stock heads cams ect .....

[Kiddigretarzz]

Originally Posted by FREAKNAZTY

imo save your cash you got a built block coming throw more boost at it ...... heads will get you 50-80 hp for 3k + and from what i've read so far hell your no where near topping out that turbo SPIN IT lol or if your really feeling froggy step up to a 67 or 76 ..... i will be pushing close to 6 easy with my 67 on stock heads cams ect .....

I think the 62mm turbo is limited at around 11psi , or at least the Hellion kit allows that much boost. So it has the ability to spin some more I guess. I know I need a new map for the stroker motor with this turbo system though and the only dyno available here is limited to 400hp so that´s not much help
I guess I can get a mail order map on my SCT from someone like Brenspeed that can fit these specifications.

[FREAKNAZTY]

Originally Posted by Kiddigretarzz

I think the 62mm turbo is limited at around 11psi , or at least the Hellion kit allows that much boost. So it has the ability to spin some more I guess. I know I need a new map for the stroker motor with this turbo system though and the only dyno available here is limited to 400hp so that´s not much help
I guess I can get a mail order map on my SCT from someone like Brenspeed that can fit these specifications.

oh no ou can spin it to probably 20+ but like you stated you need the compressor map to see its efficiency range and im as far as the tuning the only real option you have which i do not recomend but its kinda your only option is to get a tune from say tillman then datalog the car while driving and make a interstate " pull " do a few of those email the datalogs to him and he can remote tune it but that will be a slow process and the whole pegging it out on the highway thing well i need not explain lol