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Old 03-12-2009   #1 (permalink)
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Default X Pipes or H Pipes w/ Kooks headers

I am ready for my Kooks headers and was wondering if I should get the catted H pipes or the X pipes as this is a spring/summer/fall DD. Also should I expect any problems w/ the install and the emissions/O2 sensors? got any recommendations for a supplier/dealer for these?

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I would go with the x-pipe much better bbk makes a custom pipe for about 180$ ,300$ with the cats
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Dude since you have to keep the cats I would go with American Racing LT`S . The Kooks will give you some clearance issues, They are great though. The X-PIPE IS raspy, The H is deeper growl.
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An H pipe is going to sound better.
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I am debating this issue now: get the Kooks w/cats H or X...?

What is everyone using with the Kooks LT's and why X or why H?

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Oh yeah, one more thing - I am going to be running the Kooks LT's (and X or H) with my SLP Loudmouths. Will the SLP's effect my decision in getting the X or H?

How much louder with the LT's make my set up?
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I just went through this problem... what finally made me happy with the AR LT's & cat'd X was the Magnaflow cat-back... The X pipes certainly don't sound as good as the H pipes but they supposedly flow better, but I have never seen anyone prove that there's a big difference..

I think my best advice to you would be that IF you go with an X pipe, DON'T use "chambered", box-style mufflers (i.e. Flowmaster Super 40); use a can shape or traditional shape with tube-style baffles (i.e. Magnaflow, Borla, FRPP, etc.).
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Dude since you have to keep the cats I would go with American Racing LT`S . The Kooks will give you some clearance issues, They are great though. The X-PIPE IS raspy, The H is deeper growl.

I run the complete Kooks setup of LTHs and catted X-pipe. The only time I have any clearance issues is if I high center the car and thats because of the cats and me not paying attention!
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Oh yeah, one more thing - I am going to be running the Kooks LT's (and X or H) with my SLP Loudmouths. Will the SLP's effect my decision in getting the X or H?

How much louder with the LT's make my set up?
Loudmouths with headers are not a great combo. I ended up selling mine after about 6 weeks.
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Loudmouths with headers are not a great combo. I ended up selling mine after about 6 weeks.
did they sound really bad or just too loud or both? i have slp lm's........what else would you suggest i do as far as my exhaust goes?
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Stlwagon - what do I mean by not a great combo?

What did you end up selling the LT's or the SLP's?

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go with the Kooks L/T's with catted H pipe and a chambered muffler. This will give you a deep muscle car sound. The rear o2's will need to be turned off or you will throw codes. Choosing the H or X is a matter of sound preference. Performance differences are minimal with the X set up having a slight advantage.
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Stlwagon - what do I mean by not a great combo?

What did you end up selling the LT's or the SLP's?

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Got rid of the Loudmouths. With SLP headers and catted-X it was waaaay too loud and the trumpeting was too hard to stomach.
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did they sound really bad or just too loud or both? i have slp lm's........what else would you suggest i do as far as my exhaust goes?
Both... really needs a true muffler, not just a resonator. I've been happy with the FRPP-GTs.
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Stlwagon - thanks. I'm looking forward to this set up being LOUD.
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