Yes, i went with the lockouts. Is that really that bad? i see some others running lockouts as well. :/
I ended up locking my cam timing because of using the high load springs with the stage 2 cams. We tried everthing short of changing the valve springs to get it to quit the VCT rattle off of idle. I am sure there are people out there running the limiters with the same cam spring set-up I am but we just couldn't get it to work.
I used a set of adjustable cam gears so we could retard the cam timing 4* over stock which helps top end HP numbers but hurts a little down low. If I can come up with a solution to the VCT rattle I would put the limiters back in without a question.
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My Mustang is finished. Just talked with my tuner today and he said he Dynod the car on a Mustang Dyno. it came to 355RWHP and 340Trq.
But, Arent Mustang Dynos off by like 10HP compaied to a Dyno Jet Dyno?
B/c im sure if i threw it on a Dyno Jet Dyno in my NJ area id see about 360-370RWP. Atleast thats what my uddy said with the Dyno Jet Dyno he has in his Shop. Just wondering if thats a True Statemant.
Ill be picking the car up this Saturday. So ill let you all know what it feels like and if i can get to the track sometime ill let u kno some #s.
Nice numbers!! A guy on another forum with the same head/cam setup, full bolt on's, and full exhaust got 352rwhp out of his automatic 4.6 3v on a Mustang Dyno, 3rwhp less LOL.
Theoretically, if a Mustang Dyno shows 6% less power than a Dyno Jet, then you should be at approximately 376rwhp.
Nice numbers!! A guy on another forum with the same head/cam setup, full bolt on's, and full exhaust got 352rwhp out of his automatic 4.6 3v on a Mustang Dyno, 3rwhp less LOL.
Theoretically, if a Mustang Dyno shows 6% less power than a Dyno Jet, then you should be at approximately 376rwhp.
Whose this guy..? and im in rite now what u call a "safe tune" So if i want a can still throw some more degrees of timming aat it if i decide to throw like 100octane in and go to the track.
My suspensaion is basically stock so im running on a safe tune at 355RWHP for now. Cars capable of more but i need to work on suspension first.
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Whose this guy..? and im in rite now what u call a "safe tune" So if i want a can still throw some more degrees of timming aat it if i decide to throw like 100octane in and go to the track.
My suspensaion is basically stock so im running on a safe tune at 355RWHP for now. Cars capable of more but i need to work on suspension first.
Well, I'm a guy who has been on Mustang forums since 2006. I am also pretty young, I'll give you that.
I'm not surprised that you aren't familiar with me, because I haven't posted on here in over 2 years. I forgot I had an account on here until recently.
I think your car is capable of at least really low 12's on drag radials, a more aggressive tune, and better suspension, maybe 11's with some practice(providing you haven't gone to the track much before). I've seen two 1/4 mile times from setups similar to yours, 12.1 and 11.78.
Actually, you may be able to pull off an 11 with your current setup, but with the more aggressive tune and DR's. There's only one way to find out.
Lockouts won’t limit peak HP and TQ, in fact it will probably increase it. What the lockouts will do is hurt the average HP and TQ.
Lockouts are for race motors, limiters are for street motors.
+1 sqidd well said. A lot of us get caught up in the peak HP numbers that most people are looking at on these forums. When in reality for what we are looking for is a wide power band and good average HP numbers.
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Well, I'm a guy who has been on Mustang forums since 2006. I am also pretty young, I'll give you that.
I'm not surprised that you aren't familiar with me, because I haven't posted on here in over 2 years. I forgot I had an account on here until recently.
I think your car is capable of at least really low 12's on drag radials, a more aggressive tune, and better suspension, maybe 11's with some practice(providing you haven't gone to the track much before). I've seen two 1/4 mile times from setups similar to yours, 12.1 and 11.78.
Actually, you may be able to pull off an 11 with your current setup, but with the more aggressive tune and DR's. There's only one way to find out.
I think he meant who is the guy on the other forum. I had to read it twice.
Because of all the reasons that VVT makes for a better all around motor. If you can change the cam timing you can build more power over a wider range. Even if the VVT is limited its still doing what it does.
When you lock them out you will only see the benifits of the cam grind.
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Because of all the reasons that VVT makes for a better all around motor. If you can change the cam timing you can build more power over a wider range. Even if the VVT is limited its still doing what it does.
When you lock them out you will only see the benifits of the cam grind.
Congratulations on a long waited awesome mod. Best of luck with your car. I told you to lock them out in the beginning. Anyways glad you did.
lock outs are the way to go for power. I am sure you got power now. The nice thing is you got it all the time.
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Lockouts won’t limit peak HP and TQ, in fact it will probably increase it. What the lockouts will do is hurt the average HP and TQ.
Lockouts are for race motors, limiters are for street motors.
Rite now im in a safe tune. My tuner tod me when i go to the track and throw the 100Octane in i can mess aorund in the Programer and up the timing and adjust options. He sent me on a safe tune Bc i was driving the car home from MD to NJ. And my suspension is stock, I wanna throw on my LCAs this weekdn and the AntiSquats, and a few other things. Then ill get a set of Mickey Thompson DRs and go to the track. Prob around Novemeber.
But i wanna thnak you Jason and Mark and eveyrone else who helped me out with this. I really REALLY Apretiate it all.! You guys know your stuff
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Congratulations on a long waited awesome mod. Best of luck with your car. I told you to lock them out in the beginning. Anyways glad you did.
lock outs are the way to go for power. I am sure you got power now. The nice thing is you got it all the time.
Thank you BKid. You also helped me with this setup I lvoe the KOOKs headers. Really good quality.
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