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Old 04-21-2009   #1 (permalink)
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I discovered my Steeda UDP had backed out away from the block about the distance of a belt groove. I intended on replacing the original bolt with a new one but, I needed to press the UDP back up to the block. so, I put a couple of washers on the old crank bolt and tightened it down and I stripped the bolts threads. it was a PITA to remove the bolt and pulley, but they are finally off. stripped about 1/4" off the old crank bolt. I can't tell if the same is true for the inside of the crank.
I plan on retapping the threads in the crank and re-installing the pulley.

does anyone think that if I had stripped 1/4" of the crank threads, retap the threads and install a new bolt, will it hold up to the torque requirement of the new bolt? If I did strip the crank threads, is there a fix?

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how long is the bolt? 1/4 wont be to bad if its a 3 inch bolt ( 3 inch worth of thread, anything else id go ahead and retap


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Those bolts aren't under huge loads they just hold the pulley on, so I would imagine you will be just fine with a tap job and a new bolt.
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haha ok maybe a 3 inch bolt is a bit much

see what you can get away with
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Just clean up the threads and slather on some extra thread locker.
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If I remember correctly, the correct torque sequence is tighten to a certain torque, back off one turn. Tighten to a lesser torque and then plus 90 degrees rotation. The 90 deg. part is to properly stretch the bolt. That part may cause you a problem if your threads are not 100%.

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If I remember correctly, the correct torque sequence is tighten to a certain torque, back off one turn. Tighten to a lesser torque and then plus 90 degrees rotation. The 90 deg. part is to properly stretch the bolt. That part may cause you a problem if your threads are not 100%.

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Here are the specs:
Stage 1: Tighten to 90 Nm (66 ft. lbs.)
Stage 2: Loosen 360 degrees.
Stage 3: Tighten to 50 Nm (37 ft. lbs.)
Stage 4: Tighten an additional 90 degrees.
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I think that process says more about the bolt than the job it is doing. I can’t think of one reason why a bolt that holds a pulley on needs to be anything special. There is close to zero strain on that bolt aside from when it is pulling the pulley on to the crank. In theory the pulley could be bored/drilled for an interference fit with the crank and installed by heating it up and slipping it on. You probably wouldn’t even need a bolt to hold it to the crank (of course it would be silly not to use one though).

If it were my car I would drown that sucker in green Loctite ad put it back together.
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thanks for the advice gentlemen. I am going to Northern Tool tomorrow to get the tap and finish up this repair. this has gone on for three days now. working on the problem till I get to a point I don't have the tool. by then all the stores are closed and my wife takes me to work the next day. get tools on the way home, work until I discover I need another tool.

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what is the size and thread of the crank bolt?
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what is the size and thread of the crank bolt?
Take it with you to the store
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Take it with you to the store
I did that. I went to four different stores before realizing there is a Northern Tool store close by that closed at 8. I should have gone there first, if I had thought of it.

I was just wondering if it is SAE or metric.
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I did that. I went to four different stores before realizing there is a Northern Tool store close by that closed at 8. I should have gone there first, if I had thought of it.

I was just wondering if it is SAE or metric.
Its metric

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cool thanks Travelers

has anyone used one of these harmonic balancer installers on their Mustang?

KD Tools Harmonic Balancer Tool Installer - Model KDS3679 at Sears.com

Cal-Van Tools Harmonic Balancer Installer - Model 388 at Sears.com
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I think that process says more about the bolt than the job it is doing. I can’t think of one reason why a bolt that holds a pulley on needs to be anything special. There is close to zero strain on that bolt aside from when it is pulling the pulley on to the crank. In theory the pulley could be bored/drilled for an interference fit with the crank and installed by heating it up and slipping it on. You probably wouldn’t even need a bolt to hold it to the crank (of course it would be silly not to use one though).
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I wouldn't go that far. The bolt obviously backed itself out. I think the proper stretch on the bolt is quite important.
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