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Old 05-21-2009   #1 (permalink)
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How can I tell if I have a compression problem on my stock 06 gt. What test can I do to find out?
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You'd need to do a cylinder compression test and/or leakdown test.
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Can i do that myself? If so can anyone point me in the right direction on some instructions?
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You can get a compression tester at Autozone. You'd need to pull each plug to test one cylinder at a time. A leakdown test is a little more complex and requires the use of compressed air. That would be better left to a shop.
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You can get a compression tester at Autozone. You'd need to pull each plug to test one cylinder at a time. A leakdown test is a little more complex and requires the use of compressed air. That would be better left to a shop.
I never thought of this till now but can you prop the throttle blades open with fingers/screwdriver/etc while cranking the motor without damaging the fly by wire crap in the TB?

To get accurate compression test result the blades need to be wide open while cranking.
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How can I tell if I have a compression problem on my stock 06 gt. What test can I do to find out?
What makes you think you may be having a compression issue?

I find it unlikely that any compression issue would be minor. Minor compression issues are usually because of very high mileage, weeping head gasket, valve/valve seat problems, etc. which is very unlikely for a S197. And if you had a compression loss because of a broken ring, hole in the piston, cracked head/block you probably would already know that.
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I never thought of this till now but can you prop the throttle blades open with fingers/screwdriver/etc while cranking the motor without damaging the fly by wire crap in the TB?

To get accurate compression test result the blades need to be wide open while cranking.
I think you'd need to remove the harness from the throttle actuator motor (right side of TB).
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I think you'd need to remove the harness from the throttle actuator motor (right side of TB).
That would be a must and I think I would also pull the plug on th TPS also.
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That would be a must and I think I would also pull the plug on th TPS also.
Probably a good idea.
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What makes you think you may be having a compression issue?

I find it unlikely that any compression issue would be minor. Minor compression issues are usually because of very high mileage, weeping head gasket, valve/valve seat problems, etc. which is very unlikely for a S197. And if you had a compression loss because of a broken ring, hole in the piston, cracked head/block you probably would already know that.
When its above 65 degrees outside my car is so sluggish its not funny. My v6 solara could kick its ass. Talked to a mechanic and he said it sounds like I have a compression issue.
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That's just heat soak. I doubt if you have anything wrong.
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When its above 65 degrees outside my car is so sluggish its not funny. My v6 solara could kick its ass. Talked to a mechanic and he said it sounds like I have a compression issue.
Technically a lack of compression problem would get better when it gets hotter. Components would expand ad clearances would tighten up, therefore more compression.

I hope your mechanic buddy doesn’t work on flat rate…..he will starve to death!
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