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Old 06-14-2009   #16 (permalink)
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It shouldn't have. It's just a GT with some Shelby inspired parts. Unless it was mistaken for the GT 500

He is correct. The Shelby GT did get the gas guzzler tax. It's a scam.

All in all though it still not a bad deal. I paid $37 for mine loaded and most loaded GT's at that time were $30K. When you consider all the FRPP parts, shifter, striping, badging, labor, wheels, etc and the fact that everything is covered under the Ford factory and extended warranty, you wouldn't come out much ahead have the parts added to a regular GT.
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Hardly. Average price for a loaded GT(which most SGT's are) is around $30,000. Adding $10,000 puts you at $40,000. Most SGT's sticker for around $37.

Add up all the parts AND labor costs and you'd be right around $37K.
I have a fully loaded 2006 Mustang GT with mods.

Here's what I paid...

FRPP Stingers = $400 to $500? Easy, free install you can do youself.
CAI and Tune = $600. Installation is zero. Very easy.
Gears, Parts and Install = $800. My local Ford dealer did this one.

That's $1,400. I was also able to get 3.73 gears for my auto instead of the 3.55 gears in the Shelby GT. I received a tune from Bamachips, much more aggressive than a factory tune, plus I now have an SCT tuner, instead of no tuner at all. (Very useful tune!) The Stingers have a more aggressive exhaust note than the GTA on the Shelby GT...not necessary for performance, though.

The FRPP X-pipe is $100, I think? There isn't much performance gain (some report losing low end torque), so I haven't looked into doing that. An exhaust shop should be able to weld it in expensively.

I was able to find the FRPP suspension kit (springs, shocks, sway bars) for $1,200 online plus shipping. That's $3,100 in parts so far plus the cost of the FRPP installation.

Let's say it costs $1000 to install the FRPP suspension. I think that's a fair overestimate. That's only around $4k.

You're still $3k cheaper than a Shelby GT. You can use the remainder of the money for 255 series summer tires, new lower control arms and the FRPP brake bads if you like.

I can understand why someone would get the Shelby GT. If you're worried about warranty and don't want to mess with installation, then that's the way to go.

My 3 year warranty expired with about 12,000 miles on the car. I didn't really consider warranty when modding the car, since it's only for the weekends.

Anyway, I think both approaches have merit.
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This is the setup on the Shelby GT; why did the Shelby get hit with a $1000 gas guzzler tax? For about $3,000 in parts a GT can become a Shelby GT; a savings of about $10,000.
It's because of the gears.

FRPP recommends 4.10:1 gears for a manual and 3.73:1 gears for an auto. The Shelby GT has 3.73:1 manual and 3.55:1 for an atuo.

I don't know for certain, but I think Ford was forced to compromise on the gears in order to improve fuel economy. I'm sure CAFE influenced their decision. Too bad they weren't able to avoid the gas guzzler tax.
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It's because of the gears.

FRPP recommends 4.10:1 gears for a manual and 3.73:1 gears for an auto. The Shelby GT has 3.73:1 manual and 3.55:1 for an atuo.

I don't know for certain, but I think Ford was forced to compromise on the gears in order to improve fuel economy. I'm sure CAFE influenced their decision. Too bad they weren't able to avoid the gas guzzler tax.

They both came with 3:55. I think the main reason for the gas tax is due to the exhaust modifications. It really was a scam because mine got 18mpg city/ 28mpg right off the showroom floor. Actually a little better than a GT off the showroom floor.

You're right they both do have their merits, but I think it's fair to say when these cars came out that it would take a serious gearhead much research/calibration and time to do all the mods that Shelby did and drive away worry free.

Same goes for any of the non base GT additions out there. Heck you can argue that getting a V6 and slapping on a blower is a better deal. REally easy to wash anything out.
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It shouldn't have. It's just a GT with some Shelby inspired parts. Unless it was mistaken for the GT 500
In 2007 the GT had EPA MPG of 17/25 and the Shelby GT 16/23 that was enough to put it in the gas guzzler tax area. I just looked at the pictures I took when I was thinking about buying one. The GT 500 had a $1700 guzzler tax I believe.
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I paid $37 for mine loaded and most loaded GT's at that time were $30K.
I will not knock the Shelby I was tempted to buy one but could not justify the cost. I have a 2009 GT that the dealer took $5,000 below sticker; Ford kicked in $3,417. There were no incentives on the Shelby. Ford just now is giving cash back on the Bullitt.

Yes my GT has cloth but it has power windows.

Does your Shelby have a VIN that is different from a GT? I ask because Shelby is offering a kit for the GT that will make it a Shelby for $7,899. Parts only. $850 shipping. P.S. Shelby will not sell Shelby GT badges unless one can prove ownership of a Shelby GT.

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Did you have your Power Package installed by a local area dealer?
I am looking into this upgrade and would like to know if I can have it done by Barber Ford, or did you buy it and install yourself?
Barbar Ford in Ventura installed mine. But as customer supplied parts. Labor was 225. They told me that they are not able to buy those parts from Ford any more. Galpin up in Westlake can though, they quoted me 1600 for the works. Seemed a bit high which is why I took the cheap route.

Talk to Jimmy at Barber in Ventura. He knows about CAI installs and what it entails.
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You mean a screwdriver?
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