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Old 07-05-2009   #16 (permalink)
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Snake, I noticed you're from Texas. Were you just running water without any coolant/additives in that truck?
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I can address this issue from personal experience. I had always used distilled water in my vehicle cooling systems and never had any trouble. In 1985 I started building a show truck and bought a ZZ4 crate engine with aluminum heads and an aluminum radiator and as usual I filled it with distilled water. Less than 13 months and 20,000 miles the engine started showing steam from the exhaust and I began to lose coolant. Upon investigation I found that both the heads and the radiator were perforated as a result of electrolysis cause by the ionized distilled water. If you must use distilled water it is recommended that you use only de-ionized water.
I think the key is not to use deionized water alone in a radiator. If you look at the purple ice disclaimer it states: 'Distilled water and / or demineralized water should not be used if you elect to run a mixture of straight water and Purple Ice in your radiator.'
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I have always used De Ionized water and it seems to work well.
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If you must use distilled water it is recommended that you use only de-ionized water.
Deionized would be even worse. The positive ions (minerals) naturally in ground water, neutralize waters negative charge. Pull those ions out, and you get reactions between the water and metals.
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dang. just when I think I have a good grasp on most of the scientific aspects of owning and maintaining my vehicles for the past 20 years, y'all throw this at me.

de-ionizing?
electron swapping?
stocking distilled water?

gotta be a rocket scientist to maintain a car these days.
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dang. just when I think I have a good grasp on most of the scientific aspects of owning and maintaining my vehicles for the past 20 years, y'all throw this at me.

de-ionizing?
electron swapping?
stocking distilled water?

gotta be a rocket scientist to maintain a car these days.
That's just not right.
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I just do what the factory calls for, and with the antifreeze they should not be any problems. Change your antifreeze, and water regularly. Seems pretty simple. Distilled water... I thought was deionized?
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From the Ford Service Manual:

"When adding engine coolant, use a 50/50 mixture of engine coolant and deionized water."
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From the Ford Service Manual:

"When adding engine coolant, use a 50/50 mixture of engine coolant and deionized water."
Exactly what to do. I think people get into additives, and oils way to much.
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Snake, I noticed you're from Texas. Were you just running water without any coolant/additives in that truck?

No. I always ran a 50/50 mix of water and Prestone and I made sure the Prestone was the correct type for aluminum systems.
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I think the key is not to use deionized water alone in a radiator. If you look at the purple ice disclaimer it states: 'Distilled water and / or demineralized water should not be used if you elect to run a mixture of straight water and Purple Ice in your radiator.'
As stated I was running a 50/50 mix of Prestone and distilled water and was not even aware there was such a thing as de-ionized distilled water. I had used that mixture for years with no problems in several different types of vehicles.
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Deionized would be even worse. The positive ions (minerals) naturally in ground water, neutralize waters negative charge. Pull those ions out, and you get reactions between the water and metals.
We are not talkin about ground water but ionized distilled water mixed with Prestone coolant. You can debate all you want and do what you will to your own vehicles but I know what happened to mine and my advice it to abstain from distilled water that is not de-ionized.
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If you go to the shop manual thread in the stickys and look up engine cooling, Ford recommends "deionized" water for their systems. I learn something new everyday on this forum...GA
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