I was looking into investing my hard earned money into a camshaft .
But i would like to know what replacement parts you would need (Valve springs, timing belt and what not) and also does anyone have an preferences? i was looking at the Ford Racing Hot Rod Performance Camshaft. thanks you
If you plan on having a shop do the work...you will not need any additional parts. If you plan on installing yourself, you will need the timing wedge from ford and the front cam bolt. That is pretty much it.
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Originally Posted by Jake516
I was looking into investing my hard earned money into a camshaft .
But i would like to know what replacement parts you would need (Valve springs, timing belt and what not) and also does anyone have an preferences? i was looking at the Ford Racing Hot Rod Performance Camshaft. thanks you
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It seems like degreeing the cams would be a pain. Do you need to pull the motor to do the swap?
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It seems like degreeing the cams would be a pain. Do you need to pull the motor to do the swap?
Absolutely no need to pull the motor. It's an easy swap. I'd get the timing chain wedge and the valve spring compressor and follow the service manual procedures. I did it without the valve spring compressor and got lucky but would not do i that way again. If you degree the cams you'll need aftermarket cam gears which defeats VCT and with the Hot Rod cams there is no need for that.
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So the VTC elliminates the need for degreeing? If you don't change the valve springs why do you need the compressors?
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When installing new cams, additional required parts depend on the cam you choose. For Hot Rod cams, you would be required to also get phaser limiters ($199.99) and phaser bolts ($25).
If you get a comp cams XFI NSR (127200) cam, all that would be needed is phaser bolts.
I have seen some gains with the hot rod cam but nothing significant for the cost, they are designed for sound. Drivability is also worse due to the contolled missfire of the cam.
For the 127200 cam, stock drivability is kept along with an added little lope. Oun our stock test car, we saw 20 rwhp gains peak to peak and 31 rwhp gains at 6200 rpm. This option is cheaper to purchase, install, and provides hp gains.
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When installing new cams, additional required parts depend on the cam you choose. For Hot Rod cams, you would be required to also get phaser limiters ($199.99) and phaser bolts ($25).
If you get a comp cams XFI NSR (127200) cam, all that would be needed is phaser bolts.
I have seen some gains with the hot rod cam but nothing significant for the cost, they are designed for sound. Drivability is also worse due to the contolled missfire of the cam.
That's not true. Phaser limiters are not required and Ford even says so. I've been running them without phaser limiters on track at high rpms and on the street with nitrous so I can vouch for that. Also that is wrong about no horsepower gains. On the other hand I have seen several issues with the comp cams and not 1 with the Hot Rods.
Let me be specific about high rpms too. I have spun the engine up to 6800 rpms several times and have the datalogs to prove it. Nitrous cuts off at 6200.
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It is my next purchase. I plan on installing them in January of next year. I figure if engineers from Ford designed them, and use them in the Rough Rider series they must be good. No you do not need valve springs. All you need is a front cam bolt, timing chain wedge, and valve spring compressor. Most shops perform the install for about the cost of the tools (at least out here in TX).
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ok so Hot rod cams are the way to go? and i need new valve springs and timing chain wedge?
Of course they are good. For sound that is. That is what they are designed for. Not the greatest for performance, especially if you ever put any kind of FI.
when choosing what cam you want to go with, really make sure you know your future goals with your car. Weather you want to stay N/A or eventually throw a blower on and be F/I.
In the long run going F/I is the cheaper route.
You gotta ask yourself what you want out of the car with a camshaft. Talk to different people and see what they say about their setups. Or just do some research on diff typs of cams. Like VSR,NSR, & SPR.
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