So this stalling out thing is driving myself and the husband nuts. Not to mention I don't feel safe turning across highway traffic, which one of us does on a daily basis.
Hubby drove it everyday last week in an effort to figure out what it takes to "duplicate customer concern" for our lovely Ford dealership. The days he ran the A/C and drove the 1/2 hour back into town from work, it would stall, the days he didn't run the A/C, it didn't stall. But go figure tonight, same drive, using A/C, no stall. Has anyone else noticed any correlations between certain things running and when the car has it's momentary stall?
But, it still doesn't explain the momentary stall I had while driving home this afternoon in normal traffic. Go to change lanes, rather quickly, albeit, but went to go around the slow car, accelerate as I normally would, and NADA...let off and re-accelerate, no problem. I don't get it.
Is it going to take a fatal wreck for Ford to get off their thumb and find a 'fix'??
I have not had the problem but it sounds like the electronic throttle control is not working properly. as you know this is the first year they have used the type of control on the mustang, before it was a real cable going from the foot pedal to the throttle. I was wondering when this problem would show up. I don't know about using a servo motor for throttle control during higher temps or really cold temps. If you find out any thing about this problem please post it.
I've had a stalling problem. When I drive the car for a long distance on say the interstate at a fairly constant speed or cruise control, then try to acclerate it would buck and stall. Very annoying and dangerous. Seems to do it less now with 7k+. I suspected the electronic throttle or computer.
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Seems to do it less now with 7k+. I suspected the electronic throttle or computer.
Funny you would say that, ours has about 7500 on it now, and it is getting progressively worse. We tried the unplug the battery for 30 min. to reset, but obviously, it didn't work.
Thanks for the thoughts on what it might be, though. I get to go in and have a second shaker 1000 put in, so I will mention this yet again, with more specifics.
I had this exact problem on long distance trip. I downshift into 3rd to pass someone (wasn't really necessary, just felt like getting on it :P) and it stalled big time. I took out the HC in the intake, installed a K&N air filter, and didn't have it one time this past weekend on a long trip. I kicked it into 3rd about 6 times, no stall at all.
I've also had this issue on long trips. Especially after driving 30mins or so, downshifting 5th -> 4th and pedaling it. It starts accelerating, few seconds of stalling (at least it feels like that when a truck is approaching) and then it goes again like it should. Very annoying and potentially dangerous.
My guess would be that there is a bug in ECU programming in sense that it does not go into "panic power" mode from "low pollution" mode quickly enough. Just guessing though..
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I have reported it to my dealer's service department every time I'm in and still no responce from Ford. All I get is "They are looking into it." I'm afraid angeluck is right that it will probaly take a few deaths from accidents to get the attention and only after the NTSB insists on it. This has to be in the solfware for the computer since those who flash thiers with after market devices have reported that the "stall" condition went away. I was told that Ford knows about this as it is also happining on the 05 F-150's. I am taking mine in on Friday for painting my space between the tail lights black and will speak with the Service Manager about it again as well as get my radio on order again. Oh well another story for anoter thread. I'll post what they tell me this weekend.
Cheers and safe/happy driving.
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I have reported it to my dealer's service department every time I'm in and still no responce from Ford. All I get is "They are looking into it." I'm afraid angeluck is right that it will probaly take a few deaths from accidents to get the attention and only after the NTSB insists on it. This has to be in the solfware for the computer since those who flash thiers with after market devices have reported that the "stall" condition went away. I was told that Ford knows about this as it is also happining on the 05 F-150's. I am taking mine in on Friday for painting my space between the tail lights black and will speak with the Service Manager about it again as well as get my radio on order again. Oh well another story for anoter thread. I'll post what they tell me this weekend.
Cheers and safe/happy driving.
hello 05GTMustang
where in fayettevillie do you live thats not far from my wifes parents house? do you think it's a software problem or a combination of software and sensors. if it was a software problem all would have this problem because I don't think they have changed it. some of the people that do the flash are adjusting timing settings and air flow control which would remove some of the lag that all of them have at certain speeds. but if the servo motor does not respond and open the throttle butterflys at the same time that the computer trys to adjust the spark and cam timing it will get confused and run home to mommy. also some say that the TC system will shut down the engine if it senses a problem with traction and if a sensor on the TC is bad it maybe reporting to the computer and causing the stall problem. have you tried to drive without the TC on? The only way ford can diagnose this is to hook up a onboard computer that will record what the car is doing at all times and just drive it to it does it and they can see what is not responding and it may be different in different cars. I had a car a few years back that had a similar problem and they had to hook up a onboard computer and after about a 15 drive by the service manager they found it a bad egr valve and control. good luck with the problem
hello 05GTMustang
where in fayettevillie do you live thats not far from my wifes parents house?
Off South Jeff Davis Rd about 2miles from the square.
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do you think it's a software problem or a combination of software and sensors. if it was a software problem all would have this problem because I don't think they have changed it. some of the people that do the flash are adjusting timing settings and air flow control which would remove some of the lag that all of them have at certain speeds. but if the servo motor does not respond and open the throttle butterflys at the same time that the computer trys to adjust the spark and cam timing it will get confused and run home to mommy. also some say that the TC system will shut down the engine if it senses a problem with traction and if a sensor on the TC is bad it maybe reporting to the computer and causing the stall problem. have you tried to drive without the TC on? The only way ford can diagnose this is to hook up a onboard computer that will record what the car is doing at all times and just drive it to it does it and they can see what is not responding and it may be different in different cars. I had a car a few years back that had a similar problem and they had to hook up a onboard computer and after about a 15 drive by the service manager they found it a bad egr valve and control. good luck with the problem
All valid points and yes I did try it with out the TC on and same results. I believe that the combinations of sensors and computer are the culprit as you pointed out, however since my driving is much more time and distance in relationship to most of the other posters here the conditions that cause mine and other may not be meet for some to experience it. It is my belief that yes all the computers are set the same and under the correct condition everyone of us would have this problem. Since no "Check Eng Light" comes on, and the computer is not reading it as a fault, thus not reporting it. Thats why I think its more on the computer than sensors. I agree that hooking up the diagnostic computer to the car till it fails would be a great step but I just don't think I want to leave my baby with their technician for long distance driving. I don't know though, in any case since no one else is getting any where as well with their service department I guess we will have to hope Ford really is trying to fix it.
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Off South Jeff Davis Rd about 2miles from the square.
All valid points and yes I did try it with out the TC on and same results. I believe that the combinations of sensors and computer are the culprit as you pointed out, however since my driving is much more time and distance in relationship to most of the other posters here the conditions that cause mine and other may not be meet for some to experience it. It is my belief that yes all the computers are set the same and under the correct condition everyone of us would have this problem. Since no "Check Eng Light" comes on, and the computer is not reading it as a fault, thus not reporting it. Thats why I think its more on the computer than sensors. I agree that hooking up the diagnostic computer to the car till it fails would be a great step but I just don't think I want to leave my baby with their technician for long distance driving. I don't know though, in any case since no one else is getting any where as well with their service department I guess we will have to hope Ford really is trying to fix it.
Great to hear from you 05GTMustang I agree it will be a hard one to find. but on another note have you joined a mustang club yet? I joined the atlanta mustang club a couple of months ago which is free and it has been fun and the members are really nice. we are now merging with georgia regional mustang club which will make us the largest club in the state. also which dealership are you dealing with? do you think that it stalls after the car has run in traffic for a while and the engine compartment is at a higher temp? it may be a computer component breaking down at higer temps. The longest drive for me was a 2 hour ride in atlanta stop and go traffic due to road construction with a\c on and so far no stalls but I only have 3000 miles on it. It may show up later.
I'd hazard a guess it's not the A/C... mine has done it way before the temp. was high enough to turn the a/c on. It happens very rarely, but sure is a bee-otch when it does... totally messes up overtaking. Turn the TCS off and see how it goes. I have noticed that when doing burnouts with the TCS on (oops!) it cuts the power way too far, imo. Maybe it thinks the back wheels are slipping... as it only happens to me when I accelerate hard.
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The issue, for my car, is that I'll catch up to the next vehicle on the highway and wait for an appropriate time to overtake. When it happens I'm coasting when the time arrives and I stomp on the gas the motor roars to life, but only for half a second or less. Then it dies completely for about the same amount of time. Then it comes back to life all sudden like. A bit unsettling when changing lanes and this occurs. It's happened to me about four or five times in the 10 weeks I've had it... try to replicate that with a tech on board And I have the 5 speed manual trans. It's happened to me in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th.
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Wow, not cool, it sounds like you have an overactive Traction Control program prematurely engaging when the tires are not spinning. Are you hitting the rev limiter at all (6,125 rpm)? It will cut out at that rpm. Lastly, you can have Ford reflash the stock 87 octane tune and see if that doesn't help. I take it you get no "error code" lights?
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A/C & Distance = Stall Correlation?? 
Has anyone else noticed any correlations between certain things running and when the car has it's momentary stall?
And I have the 5 speed manual trans. It's happened to me in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th.
