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Old 07-04-2006   #1 (permalink)
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I am looking for comparisons or thoughts on the Roush Suspension kit (http://store.roushperformance.com/detail.aspx?ID=471), Saleen Suspension Kit (http://www.saleen.com/SC101_Services...0-1300-A11503*), and the FRPP Suspension kit (http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=8976)

Myself, I am looking for improved handling around daily driving turns and curves and enhanced performance at the track. I just want something that won't give me a headache from being too stiff. But my wants aside, I am curious what these packages have to offer or possibly another package.

I have looked through the old posts but didn't quite get the level of cursory information I was seeking.


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well heres my $.02 about them...i only know the frpp system and its well designed and decently priced. seems to be the better bang for your buck syspension system. i have a friend with a roush and i wasnt overly impressed with their suspension....was good...but not for that price.but take wat i say with a grain of salt.
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The drawback to all the "kits" mentioned is the dampers. None of them are adjustable which means by necessity they are a comrpomise between handling and ride comfort with emphasis on handling. This isn't necessarily a bad thing but why sacrifice comfort for handling if you don't have to. The obvious answer is to use Tokico D-Specs which is what Steeda offers and in fact helped design.
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The drawback to all the "kits" mentioned is the dampers. None of them are adjustable which means by necessity they are a comrpomise between handling and ride comfort with emphasis on handling. This isn't necessarily a bad thing but why sacrifice comfort for handling if you don't have to. The obvious answer is to use Tokico D-Specs which is what Steeda offers and in fact helped design.
I went another way, i have adjustable KW's. Its the most expensive, but i can adjust the ride height and dampers too. Plus its a coil over setup. www.kwsuspension.com check it out for another opinion..
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Default Adjustable Dampers Are Great For Racing...........

If you are not racing the car on a track; Tokico D-Specs are a waste of $; in my opinion. I have had adjustable shocks in the past on my Supra, 86 Celica GTS. You wind up going CRAZY looking for the "perfect" setting. I went with the Eibach Pro-Kit, and their Anti-Roll Kit, and their dampers are on order. Even with the stock dampers, the difference is AMAZING. The next items which I believe are a MUST, are BMR lower and up control arm(s), and the lower control arm re-location Kit. I will probably wind up going with a BMR adjustable Panhard bar as well.

One last thing; POLY BUSHINGS. If you drive the car on a daily basis, they are the best way to go.

Please take all comments with a grain of salt, as they are MY opinion.

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If you are not racing the car on a track; Tokico D-Specs are a waste of $; in my opinion. I have had adjustable shocks in the past on my Supra, 86 Celica GTS. You wind up going CRAZY looking for the "perfect" setting. I went with the Eibach Pro-Kit, and their Anti-Roll Kit, and their dampers are on order. Even with the stock dampers, the difference is AMAZING. The next items which I believe are a MUST, are BMR lower and up control arm(s), and the lower control arm re-location Kit. I will probably wind up going with a BMR adjustable Panhard bar as well.

One last thing; POLY BUSHINGS. If you drive the car on a daily basis, they are the best way to go.

Please take all comments with a grain of salt, as they are MY opinion.

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To the contrary, the whole point of the D-Specs is that you can adjust them from racecar stiff to sport sedan soft and anywhere in between. You don't have to "learn to live with" a rock hard ride 90% of the time because you want racecar handling the other 10%. I had adjustable dampers on my Supra, too, but they were KYB AGX's and they were junk. The D-Specs are a whole other story.
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To the contrary, the whole point of the D-Specs is that you can adjust them from racecar stiff to sport sedan soft and anywhere in between. You don't have to "learn to live with" a rock hard ride 90% of the time because you want racecar handling the other 10%. I had adjustable dampers on my Supra, too, but they were KYB AGX's and they were junk. The D-Specs are a whole other story.
No, doubt they are a quality product, but at almost twice the price of the Eibach dampers that are specifically made for their pro-kit; I just don't see them being worth it for me.
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I have the Saleen kit...nice ride, but a bit pricey. Remember, the Saleen kit is essentially the Eibach Pro Kit. The Saleen kit does come with shocks, but they are not adjustable (as previously mentioned). In addition to the Saleen kit, I also have a rear anti-sway bar and an adjustable panhard bar. The only thing I have to say that may be bad, is in my opinion, the car does not seem much lower than before. Although I have been told by friends and family that it is noticeably lower. I think if were to do it all over, I would go with the eiback Pro Kit, eiback Sway bars and the Tokico adjustable shocks.
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No, doubt they are a quality product, but at almost twice the price of the Eibach dampers that are specifically made for their pro-kit; I just don't see them being worth it for me.
Shox.com lists the Eibachs for $499 and the Tokicos for $591.You can also find the D-specs on ebay for $503.
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Shox.com lists the Eibachs for $499 and the Tokicos for $591.You can also find the D-specs on ebay for $503.

Gotta hand it to you man, you REALLY know your ****. However, the $503 shocks on ebay they nail you with $50 for shipping, but I found them on there for $529 FREE SHIPPING!! Do you really think that they would be superior to the Eibach Pro-Kit dampers?? I only ask cause they say that the Eibach dampers are "tuned" specifically for their Pro-Kit; which I have, springs, and front and rear anti-roll kit(which kicks ass BTW!) I did not buy the dampers at the time cause i did not have the money; but down the line I want to make sure to make the best purchase. So hands down, you really vote for the Tokico's??

Thanks for all the knowledge sharing BTW
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One thing to consider is that the Tokico Ds are adjustable. Which means that you can adjust the setting at each end of the car to suit your goal or style of driving.
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Go with the D-Specs. They are well worth the money. The adjustment ranges from too soft to race track stiff. On the street my car rides smoother than stock. And by setting the front and rear differently you can fine tune for understeer or oversteer. These are the best dampers I ever had on a car.
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Gotta hand it to you man, you REALLY know your ****. However, the $503 shocks on ebay they nail you with $50 for shipping, but I found them on there for $529 FREE SHIPPING!! Do you really think that they would be superior to the Eibach Pro-Kit dampers?? I only ask cause they say that the Eibach dampers are "tuned" specifically for their Pro-Kit; which I have, springs, and front and rear anti-roll kit(which kicks ass BTW!) I did not buy the dampers at the time cause i did not have the money; but down the line I want to make sure to make the best purchase. So hands down, you really vote for the Tokico's??

Thanks for all the knowledge sharing BTW
Again it comes down to versatility. The Eibachs are undoubtedly an excellent product, but the fact that they are not adjustable means that they function optimally in a narrower range of situations. Generally speaking ride comfort and race track handling are at opposite ends of the spectrum. To get more of one you have to give up some of the other. The nice thing about the Tokicos is that you can have your cake and eat it too. Sometimes, on a long trip for example, you probably want the ride as smooth as possible. Other times when you want to have some fun you can stiffen things up. Imagine having a stereo with no volume control. It may sound great at the particular setting the manufacturer chose, but it's nice to be able to adjust the volume to suit your own needs.
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It makes a lot of sense to me, I am going to go with the Tokico's, FIRST I am going with the CHE lower control arm relocation brackets, and their lower control arms; my car aligned perfectly after the springs, (i did get the caster/camber kit) , so I am holding off on the upper control arm and the Panhard Bar. Any input guys, as to which you would go with first?? Also, thanks to 65sohc, for all your input; I am learning a lot!!!
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I went with the FRPP 2005-FR3 kit and I love it. It only problem that I have had is I broke the front sway bar end links(ball joints popped out) I replaced the end links with home made hine joints and tubes that got at the local racing store. Killed a 350zx in the North Georgia Mountains.
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