Okay, I have the Saleen suspension kit (essentially Eiback springs, sway bars and shocks) and an adjustable panhard bar, yet last night I took a corner sharp and quick, and to my surpirise the rearend broke loose and caused the tail to slide to the left (right turn). Is it normal for the rearend to slide out and cause the car to fishtail on dry pavement with a full suspension kit, or am I driving her to hard or expecting too much?
The good news, I was easily able to control the girl and keep her from loosing it all together, but was just shocked that the rear end broke loose like it did, and this was not the first time, just the most noticeable.
too much gas.. with the stiffer sway bars the car will come out quick if your on the gas hard. especially if your not used to it yet since there is no body roll
Okay, I have the Saleen suspension kit (essentially Eiback springs, sway bars and shocks) and an adjustable panhard bar, yet last night I took a corner sharp and quick, and to my surpirise the rearend broke loose and caused the tail to slide to the left (right turn). Is it normal for the rearend to slide out and cause the car to fishtail on dry pavement with a full suspension kit, or am I driving her to hard or expecting too much?
The good news, I was easily able to control the girl and keep her from loosing it all together, but was just shocked that the rear end broke loose like it did, and this was not the first time, just the most noticeable.
That is called steering with your right foot. I never do that with a girl in the car.
Can you adjust the sway bar or shocks in the rear to soften them, or increase the rear tire pressure some? Any of these will increase your rear traction on the type of surface that caused you to over steer. Another method is to do the reverse on the front end. The goal for control isn't to get the suspension as stiff as possible, but to have the car's suspension balanced front and rear. Then you can optimize speed and control through the corners. You can also use the throttle to generate over steer if you want to use it. I would consider our Mustangs to be sporty cars rather than sports cars. However, the chassis and suspension design does allow for exceptional handling from a car which compared to a Porsche (for example) has a long wheel base and is heavy.
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MODIFICATIONS - Goodyear F1 GS-D3s; 245/45 on 18x9, 275/40 on 18x10| Progress Technology springs & sway bars| Steeda adj. panhard bar, panhard brace, front control arm brace & bushings| strut tower brace| Tokico D-Spec dampers| CHE adj. LCAs & BMR relocation brackets |drilled & slotted front rotors| C&L intake| BamaChips SCT tune| FRPP 4.10 ring & pinion| Pypes off road H-pipes| FRPP GTA mufflers.
Can you adjust the sway bar or shocks in the rear to soften them, or increase the rear tire pressure some? Any of these will increase your rear traction on the type of surface that caused you to over steer. Another method is to do the reverse on the front end. The goal for control isn't to get the suspension as stiff as possible, but to have the car's suspension balanced front and rear. Then you can optimize speed and control through the corners. You can also use the throttle to generate over steer if you want to use it. I would consider our Mustangs to be sporty cars rather than sports cars. However, the chassis and suspension design does allow for exceptional handling from a car which compared to a Porsche (for example) has a long wheel base and is heavy.
No, I can not adjust the shocks for they are nonadjustable/fixed shocks, but the panhard bar is adjustable and I will look into that adjustment. I do not beleive I can put much more air presure in the rear tires, I am running 20" wheels with low profile tires.
No, I can not adjust the shocks for they are nonadjustable/fixed shocks, but the panhard bar is adjustable and I will look into that adjustment. I do not beleive I can put much more air presure in the rear tires, I am running 20" wheels with low profile tires.
All the Panhard bar adjustment is for os to center the axle in the chassis when the car is lowered. It isn't used to alter under/oversteer characteristics. I'd say the best thing to do is go to a performance driving school and learn to control/enjoy what you have.
Maybe you hit some gravel or something. Just cuz you have a suspension kit, doesn't mean it will grip the road like an iron fist, it will just corner better.
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Another thing to consider is the tires. The width, compound and tread pattern affect lateral traction. 65sohc's suggestion is the best. A performance driving school is fun, you will learn techniques such as how to use over steer, learn the limits of your car, and end up with the control you want.
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'06 GT, manual, Satin Silver, lt. grey cloth int., IUP.
MODIFICATIONS - Goodyear F1 GS-D3s; 245/45 on 18x9, 275/40 on 18x10| Progress Technology springs & sway bars| Steeda adj. panhard bar, panhard brace, front control arm brace & bushings| strut tower brace| Tokico D-Spec dampers| CHE adj. LCAs & BMR relocation brackets |drilled & slotted front rotors| C&L intake| BamaChips SCT tune| FRPP 4.10 ring & pinion| Pypes off road H-pipes| FRPP GTA mufflers.
Another thing to consider is the tires. The width, compound and tread pattern affect lateral traction. 65sohc's suggestion is the best. A performance driving school is fun, you will learn techniques such as how to use over steer, learn the limits of your car, and end up with the control you want.
no, no, you decrease the tire pressure! or run the front ones with a little more pressure.
increasing the tire pressure makes the tires deflect less, more precision and but less lateral grip
That's why you INCREASE the pressure to get better mileage -less grip/friction =>better mpg.
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This is purely accademic, but the problem is with the stiffer rear suspension, the weight is not being transfered properly. Changing tire pressure, may help, but at what expense? Over inflated tires are just as bad as under inflating them. And will it be enough to offset the increased stiffness of the suspension on the rear end? If the problem is during acceleration, you're not transfering enough weight to the back end. You need the extra weight for traction. The stiffer suspension isn't allowing the car to squat down and grab asphalt (ever see a drag car during take-off?) It seems you would need to upgrade the front suspension to equal what you did to the rear, or go with a slightly softer spring in the rear in order to re-ballance the car.
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no, no, you decrease the tire pressure! or run the front ones with a little more pressure.
increasing the tire pressure makes the tires deflect less, more precision and but less lateral grip
That's why you INCREASE the pressure to get better mileage -less grip/friction =>better mpg.
Not true. On street tires cornering grip increases as you increase tire pressure up to a point. Increasing pressure in the front relative to the rear reduces understeer, while increasing rear pressure relative to front increases understeer/reduces oversteer.
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