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Old 09-24-2006   #1 (permalink)
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Question Suggestions for Motor Build??

It is about time for me to build-up my motor and I'm looking for some suggestions becaue I have read on many forums that the 3V is loosing rods just above 400rwhp. I have an '05 Vortech Supercharged Saleen that we are putting down 558 rwhp on a stock motor. So, can anyone suggest some good forged internal components to go with (i.e crank, rods, pistons). I am also considering bumping the displacement-up, though, I'm not sure how much; any suggestions?

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damn thats a lot of hp on a stock engine. i didnt think you could actually run it with that much hp. but that shows you how much i know. i have a feeling KJ might have a lot of input. i mean its not like he only has like 1-2 warranty parts left on his car or anything .
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Hey, most electrics are still stock and should be under warranty...

I built another 281 in a S197 alu block. 'Cobra' steel crank, manley H-beam rods, manley dished pistons (for mid to high 8:1 comperssion) and ARP hardware. I also have built P&P heads with Ferrea Inconel internals.

Conntact Ron at Fox Lake for your build, he allready have a few S197s under his belt and they all are doing great.... as everything else he have built in pre S197 cars...
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Inconel internals, that had to get expensive but definitely worth the money.
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Inconel internals
What is that, in english?
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Inconel is a special steel, it is strenghtened with heat and pressure, makes it much stronger, think the same size spring is more than twice as strong both ib spring strenght and longlivity.

I have Ferreas pieces in my heads, valves and springs run close to $1,500...
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Inconel is a special steel, it is strenghtened with heat and pressure, makes it much stronger, think the same size spring is more than twice as strong both ib spring strenght and longlivity.

I have Ferreas pieces in my heads, valves and springs run close to $1,500...
Thanks! I hope to build my own motor someday. (Probably after the s/c and a blown motor) Information like this is obviously critical to "doin it right".
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Me too was planing on doing it that way.... then the pieces and the builder all lined up so here I am... didn't want to wonder when she will blow either... plus my blower takes oil from the car so I might have grenaded that at the same time...??
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Oh Inconel is WAY more than just a strenghtening treatment. It's a different alloy all together. It has a higher nickel and cobalt content to make it much harder than generic stainless steel. It's used extensively in my line of work. It's a bit more brittle at temps below 200F or so, but that doesn't even come into play for valves that see 800+F temps.
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Cool, thanks. Had been wondering what more Inconel had... for the price but also for the dark, Gunmetal, look...
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The darker color is from the Cobalt I believe.
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