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Old 10-06-2006   #1 (permalink)
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After resting the coupe for a few days and driving the automatic I noticed my Hurst shifter seems to have more free play than I remember. This is fore and aft while in gear. It seems to be just the shifter and not the linkage. Side to side feels normal. Does this sound like a developing shift fork problem or something in the shifter itself? I'll be crawling under tomorrow to check it out. It seems to have about a quarter inch of play before it engages the linkage.
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Check the mounting underneath. I've heard of the nuts coming loose if loc-tite isn't applied. One other thing I've noticed is the chrome shift bar tends to come loose over time. I've already had to tighten it twice.
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After resting the coupe for a few days and driving the automatic I noticed my Hurst shifter seems to have more free play than I remember. This is fore and aft while in gear. It seems to be just the shifter and not the linkage. Side to side feels normal. Does this sound like a developing shift fork problem or something in the shifter itself? I'll be crawling under tomorrow to check it out. It seems to have about a quarter inch of play before it engages the linkage.
I had something similar. Was just a poor job on my part during installation, so *while I'm not questioning your work* , you may want to check the same thing.

You know how the shift lever is assembled in two pieces, with a splined surface joining them, and two bolts? I didn't Loctite those bolts on the initial assembly (yes, I know) and the two mating surfaces separated a bit after a few weeks. I got that same sensation, with some foreward/backward slop, but still tight laterally. The splines kept the two pieces from totally slipping apart, which would have resulted in the knob and the top half of the lever coming loose in my hand.

The fix was to simply pull the shifter boot back down, Loctite those two bolts and torque them back down. Has been perfectly tight since.
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I completely forgot about those two bolts. My shifter has been in for over a year now. Loctite? We don't need no stinking Loctite. I remember being so anxious to get it installed we skipped it because we didn't have any. I recently added the T-handle so i know I'm putting more stress on those bolts. I'll bet that's what it is. I'll check it out and get back to you. Might as well Loctite everything while I'm at it. I love this forum
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I completely forgot about those two bolts. My shifter has been in for over a year now. Loctite? We don't need no stinking Loctite. I remember being so anxious to get it installed we skipped it because we didn't have any. I recently added the T-handle so i know I'm putting more stress on those bolts. I'll bet that's what it is. I'll check it out and get back to you. Might as well Loctite everything while I'm at it. I love this forum
I torqued the living Hell out of my shifter handle bolts, and they still came loose about 1000 miles later, and the shifter behaved exactly as you described. Loctite is a MUST!
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Cool. I hope it's just that. I was picturing removing the shifter, removing the emblem on the back of the car, removing the decal under the hood and hoping the service writer "forgot" the car had a Hurst installed.
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<snip>Loctite? We don't need no stinking Loctite. I remember being so anxious to get it installed we skipped it because we didn't have any.<snip>
Exactly how mine went in w/o Loctite, resulting from my own poor planning and impatience. Of course, I only regretted it when I had to redo it later, the right way. I went ahead and got a multi-year supply of blue and red while I was there, so this wouldn't happen again soon - lesson learned.
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Same here! Without the loctite its bound to come loose after a whiile. Unless you want to tighten the bolts on a regular basis, i would justs secure them with the Loctite!
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ditto the Loctite. Identical symptoms. After the application of Loctite, just like new! The shifter gets hot just driving in stop and go traffic and I'm sure the hot-cold cycling will greatly assist in loosening up the bolts.
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Well the bolts were so loose I removed them with my fingers. They are all loctited and torqued back in place. Thanks everyone.
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Yea... I learned this with my 05... and helped somone else on here with this before. So today, putting it in the 06, I made sure to Loctite first this time.

Oh and I also went witht the T-Handle. The Shifter gets a lot of Vibrations and a lot of stress from shifting. Loctite is definately a Must.
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OK, I just ordered my Hurst shifter. (The Wifey let me get it for my 40th birthday this weekend) I'll take all your advice and Loctite all the bolts first time around. Here's the question, though. Would you recomend the red (permanent) Loctite, or the blue (Not-so-permanent)? It would seem to me the blue would be sufficient, especially if I want to get the handle off in the future. Comments, suggestions, corrections to the time?
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I used the blue... it does the trick.
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I used the blue... it does the trick.
+1, I used blue also, and no issues so far
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I'd like to thank you all for your suggestions. I just finished putting my Hurst shifter in, complete with blue Loctite on the fasteners. It went together pretty well. I didn't have much trouble getting the old shifter out and the new one in, although I see why some people recommended dropping the driveshaft. It would have made the whole thing a no-brainer. While Hurst "suggests" using a deep socket on the two rear studs, you really need them. I got the first one off with a wrench (rounding off a couple of corners in the process) then ran out to Lowes to buy the correct socket. Made it really simple then. Everything was downhill from there.

It's pretty stiff shifting and you definitely hear more of the engagement, but I prefer that to the sloppiness of the stock shifter. You really know you're in gear with this shifter. It almost shifts itself, no more hunting for third. I like the shorter throw and the old school look.
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