The FRPP CMCV delete plates install took about 1 1/2 hours with hand tools. Most of the time went to carefully wiping away grit from everywhere, to keep it from falling into the engine, as I took things apart.
I hooked up my Predator and re-loaded the stock tune, then plugged in the SCT and loaded Doug's 93 Race tune.
I have to say that Doug's tune is actually a "tune", in that it improved many things besides raw horsepower. Throttle response is closer to a real linkage, as oppposed to a drive by wire, and there is more engine braking when I lift the accelerator, thereby making upshifts a whole lot quicker. I haven't tried any of the other tunes yet, because the race tune is everything I was looking for. I think the plates and Doug's tune are a good combination.
My biggest gripe about the tune is that from a 10-20 mph roll-on start, I smoke my Nittos now without even trying!! This tune is going to cost me a fortune in tires!! I'm getting through 1st gear so quickly now that I can't imagine going to 4.10 gears!!
Ahh ha ha haah HAH HHAHAAAA!!!! Maybe now I can eat a Goat!!
Hey is it worth it for a 98 v6? Thinking aboug asking for the SCT tuner for christmas. Do they even make one for my year and engine though? But would I get as much gain out of my older, v6?
Hey is it worth it for a 98 v6? Thinking aboug asking for the SCT tuner for christmas. Do they even make one for my year and engine though? But would I get as much gain out of my older, v6?
Yes they do and I would think it would help, especially if you add a cold air system.
Congrats... Sounds like it turned out great. Did you disconnect the fuel rails to install the plates or were you able to get by without?
I did not disconnect the fuel rails- no need. Both fuel rails just rotate over to the driver's side and are out of the way. I was pleased by that. In fact, I could not get one of the vacuum lines off, so I just left the whole assembly sitting cok-eyed (sensor will not let me spell this one correctly!) on top of the engine, and that's where I swapped everything out.
It is interesting to note that the CMCV plates float around the intake manifold bolts- there is a lot of lateral play as far as how the plates can be positioned in relation to the intake plenum openings- this, I can see, would be a place where this install could get screwed-up maybe?
The plastic intake plenum opening is considerably smaller than the opening in the plates- Maybe it doesn't matter if it's centered, I don't know. But I did spend a lot of time getting the plates as centered as possible before torquing down the 2 torx screws (yes- you will need a torx driver to get these out- I was lucky I had a set on hand) that hold them onto the bottom of the plastic intake manifold.
I haven't driven it on the freeway yet. A full review will follow!
All in all- an easy mod to do, even though it looks a little daunting, having the intake off the engine. The S-76 helicopter mechanic walked into the hanger while I had the whole thing apart, and his eyes got a little big- I thought that was really funny, seeing as how complex all the helicopter systems are that he deals with.
I did not disconnect the fuel rails- no need. Both fuel rails just rotate over to the driver's side and are out of the way. I was pleased by that. In fact, I could not get one of the vacuum lines off, so I just left the whole assembly sitting cok-eyed (sensor will not let me spell this one correctly!) on top of the engine, and that's where I swapped everything out.
It is interesting to note that the CMCV plates float around the intake manifold bolts- there is a lot of lateral play as far as how the plates can be positioned in relation to the intake plenum openings- this, I can see, would be a place where this install could get screwed-up maybe?
The plastic intake plenum opening is considerably smaller than the opening in the plates- Maybe it doesn't matter if it's centered, I don't know. But I did spend a lot of time getting the plates as centered as possible before torquing down the 2 torx screws (yes- you will need a torx driver to get these out- I was lucky I had a set on hand) that hold them onto the bottom of the plastic intake manifold.
I haven't driven it on the freeway yet. A full review will follow!
All in all- an easy mod to do, even though it looks a little daunting, having the intake off the engine. The S-76 helicopter mechanic walked into the hanger while I had the whole thing apart, and his eyes got a little big- I thought that was really funny, seeing as how complex all the helicopter systems are that he deals with.
Very cool... I've been toying with this mod for awhile but have been waiting for Gig4fun to install his first . How dirty were the stockers? Did you see a lot of oil blowby?
I'm interested in this tune thing you have. my car has a new motor in it but it is only tuned by me, i mean i adjusted fuel pressure to handle 89 octane on a 10.4 compression to 43.5 lb and timing is at 15 to 16 degree throttle response is great but when i try to lean it out a bit i dropped the fuel pressure to like 41 with no luck, it pinged under hard acceleration. would 93 octain and less fuel pressure give me more power? any thoughts on this would be appreciated. thanks.
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How is part throttle response at low rpm where the CMCV plates would normally be functioning? Any loss of torque or driveability?
Just butting in here... I installed the FRPP's and have noticed zero loss of low-RPM grunt or responsiveness. I know that's a persistent rumor, but I would say that I got a nice bump across the entire RPM range.
I'm interested in this tune thing you have. my car has a new motor in it but it is only tuned by me, i mean i adjusted fuel pressure to handle 89 octane on a 10.4 compression to 43.5 lb and timing is at 15 to 16 degree throttle response is great but when i try to lean it out a bit i dropped the fuel pressure to like 41 with no luck, it pinged under hard acceleration. would 93 octain and less fuel pressure give me more power? any thoughts on this would be appreciated. thanks.
Trying to tune your AFR by adjusting the fuel pressure is not a good way of going about it. You need to set the pressure to whatever the specs are and tune the fuel curve in the engine management system by adjusting the injector duty cycle. This MUST be done on a dyno with proper testing and tuning equipment. You have a custom setup and it is impossible for anyone to come up with a proper tune off the top of his head. Trying to do it hit and miss the way you're going now will almost certainly result in a blown engine.
Very cool... I've been toying with this mod for awhile but have been waiting for Gig4fun to install his first . How dirty were the stockers? Did you see a lot of oil blowby?
I did notice that twice now, while in 1st gear and rolling at about 5 mph and 1000 rpm- that when I punched it, the computer seemed to wonder for a second. Obviously, launching from 1000rpm with the clutch out in 1st gear is a weird thing to do- but that was the only time it felt like the engine went to sleep for a second.
I am not detecting any loss of low-end grunt from 1800-3000, however, there was a noticeable increase in midrange power. Between 3500-4000 you can really feel the increase.
Blow-by: I have about 4800 miles- I did notice some oil residue at the intake, but nothing like I saw in the picure that were posted earlier- my plates were pretty clean.
I drove the car around last night again, and it's weird- I guess I actually have enough throttle response and enough horsepower now, that the car will actually squat, and the nose will rise, and the body will torque twist, when I launch hard- I felt like it was the 70's all over again. I think with some headers I'll be happy....just one more mod, I promise........
Installed Ford plates last night and then Brenspeed 91 octane delete tune. It was raining last night so couldn't try them out. Had a chance to do that this morning and was impressed. Had to be careful as roads were a little wet so left traction control on. Car started just fine, acceleration revs quicker than before and SOTP certainly feels better. Idle and revs at start same as with 91 octane tune before, about 1800 then comes down naturally within a few seconds. Very little blow-by residue on the flaps of the old plates (about 8900 mi on odometer). Took all old hardware off.
Hi, any chance one of you could take a pic of the removed CMCV plates and blades - i'm really interested to know what they look like.
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FRPP CMCV Delete Plates & Bamachips Race 93 Tune installed 
Maybe now I can eat a Goat!!
. How dirty were the stockers? Did you see a lot of oil blowby?
