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Old 11-16-2006   #1 (permalink)
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Default Supercharger a risk!?

Hey guys, I just want to know if it is worth getting a supercharger? I want to keep my 06 Mustang GT w/ stick for the rest of my life, along with the stock block engine. I just want the power there when I need it ( off the light and a few times at the track). I got a shop that says it wouldn't be a problem, just that he'll tune it so it doesn't have have much of a spark than it could, just so it'll decrease the risk of detonation. So... is it possible to have a supercharger and a stock mustang gt forever????
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If you run 4-5 lbs of boost you probably wouldn't have any issues with a good safe tune. You start running 10-12-14 lbs on this engine and you'll be shopping for a new car a lot sooner. Certainly any FI is going to stress the engine internals more than a NA setup.
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Why Not???

With a "safe tune", your car should perform perfectly for many many years...

But I think if you abuse it, then the life expectency of your motor will be limited...

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its all in the tune
with 10 lbs of boost you should be fine for a long time to come
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S/C's that operate at lower (then stock redline) RPM's are not a lot of stress on a stock engine, keep your power band below redline and enjoy!
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Only thing to consider with a supercharged application (especially centrifugal types) is the potential for transfer of harmful harmonic vibration through the crank which can shorten the life of the internals.
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Default What do you think about the Vortech S/C?

I'm going to purchace a s/c and I would like some input on a good system. Thanks (Foose Stallion).
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I'm going to purchace a s/c and I would like some input on a good system. Thanks (Foose Stallion).
If you're looking for a screw-type s/c, the Kenne Bell is a real nice system. Roush and Saleen also make screw types. The Vortech and Paxton are centrifugal types and a generally a little bit less expensive and install a little easier. Whatever you get, make sure it's intercooled.
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For stock internals a twin screw is the way
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there is a guy from where i live has a vortec supercharger and a shaker hood has nothing but problems with it be safe and get a top monuth,kennebell,roush,saleen. he actually carries pullie tensioners with him to replace them once a month. could just be a bad install as well. i dont have one so i dont know
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there is a guy from where i live has a vortec supercharger and a shaker hood has nothing but problems with it be safe and get a top monuth,kennebell,roush,saleen. he actually carries pullie tensioners with him to replace them once a month. could just be a bad install as well. i dont have one so i dont know
I've heard of the centrifugal chargers having issues throwing belts.
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If you want to keep your shaker intake, CF's are the only one's that will work. otherwise you dummy up the shaker scoop on top of the twinscrew/roots and abandon the ram air. A lot of Mach 1/shaker boys running CF's with a lot less trouble then the above mentioned vortec
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If you're looking for a screw-type s/c, the Kenne Bell is a real nice system. Roush and Saleen also make screw types. The Vortech and Paxton are centrifugal types and a generally a little bit less expensive and install a little easier. Whatever you get, make sure it's intercooled.
I have a Saleen twinscrew in my 05 I'm currently running 10psi of boost. on stock internals The upgrade package was designed by JDM Engineering of Freehold NJ. Most of you guys know them for sponsoring the Tough Truck class at Fun Ford Weekend and from their many articles in Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords.

They have done over 500 of these packages withut a single engine failiure to date.

I'm running 11.42 @ 119.92mph.

The only issue I have had was of breaking a couple of tensioners on full throttle powershifts. I also know of 5 people with Kennebell blowers with the same issues.
A redesigned tensioner should be out within a week by an aftermarket supplier.

The Kennebell, Saleen, and Whipple are all twinscrews. The Roush is actually a roots
style blower like the terminators while the Vortech, Procharger, and Paxton are all centrifugals.

A centri spools up like a turbo giving less low end torque but more power as the rpm's increase.
A twinscrew has more torque down low but less up around redline.

In my opinion you can't go wrong with any of these blowers provided you do your homework.

The Saleen as done by JDM has spectacular performance with canned tunes that are dead on. Any top tuner in the country will tell you that their tunes for automatics are second to none.

The Kennebells are also known for their excellent numbers straight out of the box.

The whipple is a recent addition andfrom what I have seen is in the same ball park as the Kennebell or JDM/Saleen.
I cannot tell you any more on the centri's as I was not really interested in one but a few people have ventilated blocks on prochargers with the canned tunes which were provided with them.
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I went with the Saleen S/C so I can still use my JLT CAI. Im lookin to keep my car for a long time. I feel very safe with the Saleen at 7,8lbs of boost. I will have to have my car dyno to get the JLT to perform right and I'll stay with a safe tune.
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The Roush is actually a roots style blower like the terminators while the Vortech, Procharger, and Paxton are all centrifugals.
I stand corrected. I thought the Roush was also a twin screw.
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