Not too familiar with cams... but it is okay to have such big cams on an otherwise mildly modded car? I thought the whole
thing had to be done, either P&P heads and intake, or a blower in combination with an aggressive cam. Does the low end torque go down a bit with a big cam, on an otherwise relatively stock motor? Sorry for so many questions, looking to maybe doing the same in the future...
Thanks!
Mick
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RIP - 1996 Mustang Laser Red Convt - Custom exhaust, Custom H-Pipe, Cobra Headlights, 3.55, 8.8", CDC lightbar, Saleen Tonneau Cover
Not too familiar with cams... but it is okay to have such big cams on an otherwise mildly modded car? I thought the whole
thing had to be done, either P&P heads and intake, or a blower in combination with an aggressive cam. Does the low end torque go down a bit with a big cam, on an otherwise relatively stock motor? Sorry for so many questions, looking to maybe doing the same in the future...
Thanks!
Mick
These grinds aren't terribly aggressive. They yield good gains to a NA car and really impressive numbers with FI.
yeah in the grand scheme of muslce cars these cams are very very mild. even the stage 4's have under 500 lift and the duration is very low. These cams are made to work well with these motors especially wehn you have just a few mods done. On dyno sheets i have seen people losing a little bit of HP and TQ under the 3500 rpm level but the gains are impressive over 4500 which is what you want if you race.
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2005 Mustang GT , 5-speed , Satin Silver
Mods: C&L, custom SCT tune, Stage 3 Comp Cams, Flowmasters, OR h-pipe, Steeda UDP, 4.10 FRPP gears, Zex Wet Nitrous Racer Kit, SPEC 3+ w/ alum Flywheel, Detroit True-Trac, full BMR suspension, PH alum driveshaft, M&H, SS window louvers, GTS center panel blackout
12.88 @ 106
12.03 @ 115 (75 hp shot)
yeah in the grand scheme of muslce cars these cams are very very mild. even the stage 4's have under 500 lift and the duration is very low. These cams are made to work well with these motors especially wehn you have just a few mods done. On dyno sheets i have seen people losing a little bit of HP and TQ under the 3500 rpm level but the gains are impressive over 4500 which is what you want if you race.
I lost a little down low but picked up quite a bit over 4000.
These grinds aren't terribly aggressive. They yield good gains to a NA car and really impressive numbers with FI.
I was wondering about this being FI....and I thought I was almost done with mods........
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Originally Posted by STONECOLD
Sounds great, sounds like a 5.0 motor.
yeah....the push rod motors.
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future mods.... a 3.0 pulley
Would running that hotter cam affect your emmisions.Here in Colorado the the standards are pretty high and could possibly fail the test,otherwise it would be a better mod than an S/C for that kind of bank.Also,did the throttle responce improve?
This is a long post, sorry but is a great "cam" event.
Back before I had children (married 1st time at 31 yrs old) I purchased a '68 Gran torino GT w/ 390 cid motor from a friend of mine (this was in 78). He had put headers, Eldelbrock and Holly carb on it, Baja Sact Track l69-15's on the rear, these tires were freakin huge with a a kind of patchwork tread pattern. The motor had about 90k miles on it, I don't know if he ran it out of oil or what, bit when I bought it, it had a bad rod knock. I took it to my uncle's garage pulled the motor out, and pulled it down for a rebuild. I had asked my uncle if he could would have my crank ground for me and he told me to chunk it and he would have a 352 crank (ford had 2 big blocks that were standard back then a 352 and a 390, an dof course the bigger 427,428 and 429, not sure which was out in '68) ground for me. When he sent the crank over he also sent the block and heads to the machine shop to have some milled off each, don't remember how much off of each. I bought a "Crower 310 solid lift" cam that was over 300 duration and I think around .625 lift., roller rockers, hy-po lifter and pushrod set and a high vol. oil pump.
When it was all said done I owed my uncle like $1300. It doesn't sound like much now but at the time it was a lot.
When I finally got it all together (with a lot of unc's help and tips)and busted that thing off.....man I almost had an orgasm right then and there. I remember him telling me to ake it easy for at least 500 miles, I took it kind of easy, would run it up to 5 grand every once in a while, when I got about 300 miles on it, like the stupid kid I was, I finally said F it and did an all out launch it took me totally by surprise, it started that back and forth swaying and I ended up in the front lawn of an apartment complex. It took me a couple of minutes to get my sh*t back together it scared me so bad.
It would not for the world idle under about 900 rpm, I set the idle at 1,100 and man did it ever sound good. I had headers with stock mufflers, I put a washer between the header and exhaust flanges which gave it a really cool sound. Any of you old school guys may rember what gapped headers sound like, very crisp at idle and a cool roar when under W.O.T. All that money and work and I would guess the motor was making maybe between 400 and 500 hp. It was a BIG car but it would run right with if not beat any 440 Mopar.
After a couple of years of taking to it 7k rpm at least once every 3 or 4 days and probably 10-15 times on a night of street racing, the dino finally gave up the ghost. It sat out behind my Dad's house for probably 10 years with a rod hanging out the side of the block. One day this guy pulls up in the drive and asked if it was for sale. My dad told him if you wil haul it off you can have it. When he called me and told me what was going on, I told no way. He gave me the guys ph # and when I told him what all was in the car, he offered me $1000 and said meet me out there. that was the last I ever saw of old yeller
New cars and cams just can't even compare to the way cams made the dinosaurs sound and run
you called it, i bounced off the rev limiter because i cant stick that thing to the ground even with those MT's heated up. Im going to make some new videos soon of some street runs/races, burnouts, idle, dyno tunes and then when the tracks open some 1/4 mile passes
STL
selling those tools on the boards is a good idea..... the only way i would use them again is if they come out with Stage V or VI
