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Old 02-21-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs up What Kenne Bell has to say-Very Interesting

After doing some research on the idea of adding a Kenne Bell Super charger to my 06 GT, I found some very interesting info from a guy who is WELL respected and with a vast knowledge of the Mustang. Click on his web site and go to tech info on the 05-06 Mustang GT. Here is just some of his interesting info and like Keene says, "there are many people who give advice that think they are experts": Exhausts-sorry, but we have found NONE that give any hp advantage over stock, except the Bassani with x pipe (10 hp). Hi flo cats- no hp increase over stock, 10hp gain by removing them. Headers- only 4-5 hp gain over stock and may create leak problems at bolt mounts. Oil- he says best oil is Red Line and gave them a hp increase, Mobil 1, a good stand by. Gears- best 1/4 mile gears, 3:73. He gives a lot more info on his site including a lot of dyno hp and torque graphs.
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Which part is BS? These are not opinions, they are facts.
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Which part is BS? These are not opinions, they are facts.
Well said, and your new KB addition got me interested in getting one. Let us know later how it works out!!
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I;ve done testing as well on the exhaust and agree whole heartly on that portion. As for the oil, this is where conflicts arise. Take a car that has had 3000 mile soil in and put the cheapest brand of oil in it and I can gaurentee that you will see a HP increase.....Why........

New oil adds a tad more compression thus the higher gains.

If you do some research, Redline, Leading edge, Royal Purple all start with the same ingredient (sp?) which is the Mobil 1 reciept.


We did this on the dyno to several cars to try it out.

As for the best oil, depends on what you are doing with the car. Mark you like road racing, Thus I'd choose an oil that holds together a bit longer with the heat such as Royal Purple or Red Line.
I know Jon Kasse, The Baddest Ford Ebgine Builder on the Planet, Only uses Valvoline!!!!!!! He has been doing it for years and has never had a problem with Motors Making 1500+ Horsepower.

Robert Yates and Jack Roush both use Mobil 1 in their Nascar Motors.


It's a tough choice but as far as the Exhaust goes, I agree there is no signifigant gain on a N/A motor. Now for a forced Induction Motor like a KB or Saleen, there is a gain to be had if the blower is pulleyed up to make some good Boost (10+ PSI)

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Get the Most Amount of air into the motor and get it out just as Quick.
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I couldn't agree more. The oil thing is pretty much bull. We have done lots of dyno testing lately with oils and none are better than the other. One thing that is interesting and makes a difference is heat. Dyno a car with cold oil, rear end & transmission lubricants and dyno one with hot oil, transmission & rear end lubricant. We have scene differences as much as 3HP.
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Facts...???

I have seen a 2.? RWTQ gain from muffs on a S197.

Why is one brand X better than ALL the others? Was it cat less compaired to a catted stock H? I have no reason to believe I would gain 10 HP by taking my old Bassani X from the basement and put it in place of my Kooks X under the car...?!?

Mobil 1 is superior in all other cars/racing, why not in KB's testing? Our cars may have a VT issue with fully synthetic. Two of the best modular motor builders recomend an oil that is NOT synthetic!!

You put a 3.73 gear in one of the NA (Factory Stock) cars, heck pick the winner of last year and see how far s/he comes this year, NOWHERE!!
Take a stock S197 and drive it with 3.73 and then with 4.56 and tell me what times you did...

What exhaust and oil does KB recomend/sell(?)...??

Just my .02 € cents...
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KJ, I am assuming all his data on his web site is from his own in house testing. I would imagine his statement about 3:73 gears being the best is with his supercharger. He does not recommend nor sell any exhaust as his business looks to be strictly super chargers. He does not sell oil either but found Red Line to be the most effective. I personally cant see why any 100% synthetic is any better than the other. His web site is very informative though on his s/chargers.
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Absolutely informative! I read up allot on fuel systems, pressures, etc before building my system... have you seen that yet? Very informative and professional even though it lead you towards their BAP...
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The MOST informative supercharger site hands down. That is what sold me on the KB. I was not so hot on the air filter being so close to the ground, but I have had zero problems with it and it has rained 75% of the days that I have had it.
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i have tested diff oils on a engine dyno. found no hp diff between the good synthetic oils.have found alot diff in engine wear between reg oil and synthetic.race engine builder for 12yrs.
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Which part is BS? These are not opinions, they are facts.
the whole kennebrown knows best part.
Plus the fact that changing to x pipe with high flow cats gets you 0 gain in HP over stock 4 cats ... i guess on your six there is no need to change it.
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the whole kennebrown knows best part.
Plus the fact that changing to x pipe with high flow cats gets you ) gain in HP over stock 4 cats ...
I don't think Kenne Brown makes parts any more and I don't thik he ever made SC's
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I have his parts, plus i had to tell him that his springs don't fit on a 86 GT..
I Had to change the spindle.
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I'm sensing we're having some Kenne confusion here.
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