AFM Web

Go Back   Ford Mustang Forums > Mustang Forums > 2005 + Mustang > 2005-2009 Mustang GT Tech
Welcome to AllFordMustangs.com. We look forward to you registering on our forum and making your first post.
 
Introductions | Lounge | 2005+ GT Tech | 2005+ V6 Tech | 2005+ Talk | Mustang Tech | Racing | Regional 
 

Reply
 
Old 03-19-2007   #16 (permalink)
kj_cinci is offline Top Dog

S197 Member


Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 5,370 Threads: 135
 kj_cinci's Country Flag  View kj_cinci's 29 photos
Cincinnati   Ohio
Default

Well yea... ppl make up to 1000 RWHP using them with FI so they can't be all bad... but NA they may really help towards that magical 400 RWHP mark...?? ALso FI it would be interesting to see if the gain is a percentage... 40 RWHP is about 15%... so for me that would be 80-90 RWHP... if the blower can keep up and fill it plus it never works that way...
__________________
KJ, poorer but happier

Thanks to:
Modular Depot
Fox Lake Racing
Tunable Induction
Power House 411
Sun Coast Creations
kj_cinci is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2007   #17 (permalink)
Kyle F is offline Top Dog

5.0L Member
S197 Member


Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 4,367 Threads: 231
 Kyle F's Country Flag  View Kyle F's 63 photos  View Kyle F's 1 classified ad  View Kyle F's HomePage
Knoxville   Tennessee
Send a message via AIM to Kyle F Send a message via Yahoo to Kyle F
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kj_cinci View Post
40 RWHP is about 15%... so for me that would be 80-90 RWHP... if the blower can keep up and fill it plus it never works that way...
Yea, so then you would have more traction problems and run even slower ETs
__________________
2006 Mustang GT in Torch Red
C&L Intake, Evolution Performance Tune, Borla Axle Backs, Hurst Shifter, 4.10's, JBA Long Tubes, Prothane Engine Mounts, Steeda UDPs, FRPP Charge Motion Delete Plates

84 Bronco, 302 C6 on 32 10.50's
Kyle F is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2007   #18 (permalink)
zmanm3 is offline Senior Member

Classic Member
S197 Member


Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,582 Threads: 4
 zmanm3's Country Flag  View zmanm3's 4 photos
St. Robert   Missouri
Send a message via Yahoo to zmanm3
Default

I am surprised that there isn't an aftermarket intake manifold out already, it has been almost 3 years.
__________________
05 - Zeon body kit, Saleen S/C, 3.6" pully, 90mm MAF, L/T Heders, Catted X-Pipe, Saleen Race Craft suspension, Axel brace, Pan hard bar. More to come this spring from my friends at PMP and Larry H.
65 - Street force coil over front suspension, Wilwood disk breaks at all 4 wheels, More construction in progress! More to come this spring from Simons Auto & Restoration!
zmanm3 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2007   #19 (permalink)
cekim is offline Apprentice

5.0L Member
S197 Member


Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 185 Threads: 0
 cekim's Country Flag
Concord   Massachusetts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zmanm3 View Post
I am surprised that there isn't an aftermarket intake manifold out already, it has been almost 3 years.
Kinda tells you Ford did a pretty good job... All the low-hanging-fruit was plucked...
__________________
'06 GT Vert - Saleen S/C
'05 GT Coupe - Under Construction - currently etching an "11" on the dial
'85 GT T-Top 351W N/A
cekim is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2007   #20 (permalink)
zmanm3 is offline Senior Member

Classic Member
S197 Member


Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,582 Threads: 4
 zmanm3's Country Flag  View zmanm3's 4 photos
St. Robert   Missouri
Send a message via Yahoo to zmanm3
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cekim View Post
Kinda tells you Ford did a pretty good job... All the low-hanging-fruit was plucked...
Which makes me wounder about claims of a 40HP increase with this new one that is suppose to be coming out.
__________________
05 - Zeon body kit, Saleen S/C, 3.6" pully, 90mm MAF, L/T Heders, Catted X-Pipe, Saleen Race Craft suspension, Axel brace, Pan hard bar. More to come this spring from my friends at PMP and Larry H.
65 - Street force coil over front suspension, Wilwood disk breaks at all 4 wheels, More construction in progress! More to come this spring from Simons Auto & Restoration!
zmanm3 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2007   #21 (permalink)
cekim is offline Apprentice

5.0L Member
S197 Member


Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 185 Threads: 0
 cekim's Country Flag
Concord   Massachusetts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zmanm3 View Post
Which makes me wounder about claims of a 40HP increase with this new one that is suppose to be coming out.
F.A.S.T. part I or II?

You don't need to wonder about the first rev - it went back to the lab...

Have not heard anything yet about its re-release...
__________________
'06 GT Vert - Saleen S/C
'05 GT Coupe - Under Construction - currently etching an "11" on the dial
'85 GT T-Top 351W N/A
cekim is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2007   #22 (permalink)
Kyle F is offline Top Dog

5.0L Member
S197 Member


Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 4,367 Threads: 231
 Kyle F's Country Flag  View Kyle F's 63 photos  View Kyle F's 1 classified ad  View Kyle F's HomePage
Knoxville   Tennessee
Send a message via AIM to Kyle F Send a message via Yahoo to Kyle F
Default

Hey, Dyno Joe... where are ya?

Just bumping this up as a reminder to him
__________________
2006 Mustang GT in Torch Red
C&L Intake, Evolution Performance Tune, Borla Axle Backs, Hurst Shifter, 4.10's, JBA Long Tubes, Prothane Engine Mounts, Steeda UDPs, FRPP Charge Motion Delete Plates

84 Bronco, 302 C6 on 32 10.50's
Kyle F is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2007   #23 (permalink)
WizardBlack is offline Rookie


Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 21 Threads: 1
 WizardBlack's Country Flag
Marysville   Ohio
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cekim View Post
Kinda tells you Ford did a pretty good job... All the low-hanging-fruit was plucked...
Hmm, I dunno about that. I think a plenum is a secondary mod after you do some other things (lotsa bolt-ons or forced induction). I think they will indeed show some pretty good gains after looking at the stocker. They are just waiting for more demand from peeps who have done the other stuff first. It's too early yet.
WizardBlack is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2007   #24 (permalink)
cekim is offline Apprentice

5.0L Member
S197 Member


Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 185 Threads: 0
 cekim's Country Flag
Concord   Massachusetts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WizardBlack View Post
Hmm, I dunno about that. I think a plenum is a secondary mod after you do some other things (lotsa bolt-ons or forced induction). I think they will indeed show some pretty good gains after looking at the stocker. They are just waiting for more demand from peeps who have done the other stuff first. It's too early yet.
Plenum is generally only modded by the N/A guys who have been screaming for it since day 1... For FAST to come up and hype as they did and then back off indicates that they could not deliver the goods when compared to stock +CMCV delete. I don't think they failed for lack of trying...

All indication from the above, turbo, centri blowers etc... is that the intake just isn't a limitation until you start getting up there in HP (above 800). The TB is, but the GT500/V10 TB goes on and the restriction goes away...
__________________
'06 GT Vert - Saleen S/C
'05 GT Coupe - Under Construction - currently etching an "11" on the dial
'85 GT T-Top 351W N/A
cekim is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2007   #25 (permalink)
kj_cinci is offline Top Dog

S197 Member


Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 5,370 Threads: 135
 kj_cinci's Country Flag  View kj_cinci's 29 photos
Cincinnati   Ohio
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle F View Post
Yea, so then you would have more traction problems and run even slower ETs
Ahh... that's because I can't drive...

Have a plan now... just wait for that 11!!
__________________
KJ, poorer but happier

Thanks to:
Modular Depot
Fox Lake Racing
Tunable Induction
Power House 411
Sun Coast Creations
kj_cinci is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2007   #26 (permalink)
WizardBlack is offline Rookie


Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 21 Threads: 1
 WizardBlack's Country Flag
Marysville   Ohio
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cekim View Post
Plenum is generally only modded by the N/A guys who have been screaming for it since day 1... For FAST to come up and hype as they did and then back off indicates that they could not deliver the goods when compared to stock +CMCV delete. I don't think they failed for lack of trying...

All indication from the above, turbo, centri blowers etc... is that the intake just isn't a limitation until you start getting up there in HP (above 800). The TB is, but the GT500/V10 TB goes on and the restriction goes away...
Hmm, I guess I can't speak about forced induction S197's, but that is precisely what I meant about it being too early for the intake... it's only useful for peeps who have done a bunch of other stuff; most of whom have resorted to forced induction or stroker kits or high rev forged internals and heads.
Regarding the TB, I spoke to multiple tuners and they said they did nothing, but then again, I asked them in reference to a car with a basic set of mods and not FI. Good to know...
WizardBlack is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2007   #27 (permalink)
Kyle F is offline Top Dog

5.0L Member
S197 Member


Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 4,367 Threads: 231
 Kyle F's Country Flag  View Kyle F's 63 photos  View Kyle F's 1 classified ad  View Kyle F's HomePage
Knoxville   Tennessee
Send a message via AIM to Kyle F Send a message via Yahoo to Kyle F
Default

Breenspeed claims 5 hp on a car with Long Tubes, Cams, CAI, underdrives, and Gear for a BBK Throttle Body.
__________________
2006 Mustang GT in Torch Red
C&L Intake, Evolution Performance Tune, Borla Axle Backs, Hurst Shifter, 4.10's, JBA Long Tubes, Prothane Engine Mounts, Steeda UDPs, FRPP Charge Motion Delete Plates

84 Bronco, 302 C6 on 32 10.50's
Kyle F is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2007   #28 (permalink)
Terry5357 is offline Made Member

S197 Member


Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 280 Threads: 42
 Terry5357's Country Flag  View Terry5357's 1 photo
Lewisville   Texas
Default

what are charge delete plates and what do they do?
__________________
1/8 mile 8.04 @ 87.23 mph
1/4 mile 12.504@ 108.9 mph



2006 Mustang GT Tungsten ,auto, C&L Racer, BBK LT and O/R "X", LCA's, 4.10, CDC Shaker, CMCV deltes, COmp127200 cams
Terry5357 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2007   #29 (permalink)
stlwagon is online now Site Administrator

S197 Member


Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 64,628 Threads: 680
 stlwagon's Country Flag  View stlwagon's 53 photos  View stlwagon's 4 classified ads
Southern   Maryland
Send a message via Yahoo to stlwagon
Default

Lots of threads on this. In a nutshell, the plates remove the electronically controlled charge motion runner controls allowing the engine to breathe better at all RPMs.
__________________
AFM Site Administrator
2005 Mustang GT
stlwagon is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2007   #30 (permalink)
Waxed'05 GT is offline Senior Member

S197 Member


Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,451 Threads: 15
 Waxed'05 GT's Country Flag  View Waxed'05 GT's 10 photos
Aurora   Illinois
Send a message via Yahoo to Waxed'05 GT
Default

Here it is!

It took me only a few seconds once opened to convert it to a pdf using Office Word 2007.
__________________
'06 GT---Mods---Tunable Inductions Intake, Fully Polished Pypes Violator Mufflers, MAG Mirror Inserts, Sequential Tail Lights, CDC Hood Struts, Powder Coated Valve Covers, Window Tints, Pioneer Premier DEH-P880PRS Head Unit, 8" Kicker Door Subs (SSMB8)
Front: Infinity mids/tweets 6812cf; Rear: Polk db570 mids/tweets------ Awaiting Install ---Eibach Pro Kit, DSpecs

Last edited by stlwagon; 08-04-2008 at 07:42 PM.
Waxed'05 GT is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2005 Mustang GT too late to S/C? luckydog827 2005-2009 Mustang GT Tech 3 03-12-2007 03:23 PM
FRPP CMCV Delete Plates & Bamachips Race 93 Tune installed helicfii 2005-2009 Mustang GT Tech 31 11-02-2006 08:08 AM
Oil catch can install - 93 Mustang GT 93BlkMustangGT 5.0L Tech 0 09-09-2006 11:42 PM
Removing Rear 2005 Mustang Seats Caladius Mustang Tech 0 06-23-2006 12:56 AM

sponsors

Mustang Photos
Add to Favorites    Link to us    Contact    Directory    Site Rules    Archive    Terms of Use    Privacy    Top Sites    RSS    Meet Our Sponsors    Advertise   
AllFordMustangs is not affiliated with or endorsed by Ford Motor Company. ©Copyright 2002-2010 All Auto Enthusiasts Network

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112