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Old 09-01-2007   #31 (permalink)
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It's a risk I'm willing to take
Just thinking out loud, I think it would be more at risk on an auto, vs a stick. a slip of the foot off the brake to the gas. bing u r moving.
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do you think it might be safer to bend the whole asembley not just the wires?? less chance of breaking the fine wires
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Just thinking out loud, I think it would be more at risk on an auto, vs a stick. a slip of the foot off the brake to the gas. bing u r moving.
Quite possibly...
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do you think it might be safer to bend the whole asembley not just the wires?? less chance of breaking the fine wires
I was wondering the same... I really need to see inside that box to really understand.
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You have to bend both the ends of the wires, and the entire tabs themselves.

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It was $43 so well worth it in case I screw it up. I may open them both up and compare contacts before I decide which one to modify. It's going to be awhile before I get to this one.
Do you have this lag? I'm woundering if its a early year problem. I don't have any lag.

I see your wife has added some insurance to the possabable end to your mods, in the trunk
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Do you have this lag? I'm woundering if its a early year problem. I don't have any lag.

I see your wife has added some insurance to the possabable end to your mods, in the trunk
I have a little but it's not too bad. Figured I'll open it up and at least take a look. Either way, I'll have a spare sensor when this one eventually go T/U.
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thinking about doin this today , it is a long weekend though sure hate to screw it up and be with out my ponyfor labor day.................the mod looks way to simple..............lol if i get the balls to take this on i will post results
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Sounds like a cool "free" mod or min 43.00.

I will wait on this though, from a safety standpoint "threat or control Management" standpoint sceneiro, of like changing the poundage of a trigger from 10lbs to 3lbs, or double action to single action, might put one in the danger zone.

By no means am I bashing the mod, or doubt the results, I am just viewing it from a control issue, and wet or icy roads.

Danger schmanger you buncha wussies. It's only a $30,000 car. If you break it, just get another one. In fact, do what STLWAGON sorta did and buy a whole new car, in case you mess up the first one. Mod on! I will take a closer look and maybe try this today. I minored in jewelry at the University of Idaho (my parents were thrilled ) so I have jeweler's pliers and a modicum of dexterity in my clumsy ham-hands.

I'll let you know.
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Just thinking out loud, I think it would be more at risk on an auto, vs a stick. a slip of the foot off the brake to the gas. bing u r moving.
Another potential problem is that I was considering moving the brake pedal up or the gas pedal down.

Heel-toe downshifting can be difficult on hard braking because the gas pedal seems to be about 1/4-1/2 inch too high. My foot hits the gas as I am hitting the brakes before I am ready. Can't brake hard without engaging the gas.
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I hope this isn't a no-no, but here's my original thread on Mustang Forums, with a lot of discussion and clarification.

DIY THROTTLE RESPONSE MOD (MUST SEE!)
Consider the source. This mod does not increase throttle responsiveness. The throttle's initial reaction may increase by about a couple thousandth of a second (assuming you had any problem to start with) if you were to jab the peddle. Contrary to what they believe over at censored.com, this will not make your top end higher, will not make your car feel like it has a supercharger and will not make the blades in the throttlebody open any faster. The Emporer has no clothes.
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This should be the same fix with the v6. I'm pretty sure they both use the same type of pedal sensor.
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Consider the source. This mod does not increase throttle responsiveness. The throttle's initial reaction may increase by about a couple thousandth of a second (assuming you had any problem to start with) if you were to jab the peddle. Contrary to what they believe over at censored.com, this will not make your top end higher, will not make your car feel like it has a supercharger and will not make the blades in the throttlebody open any faster. The Emporer has no clothes.
Correct. All it should do is to make you have throttle earler, in the pedal travel. I really notice this odd sensation, when I have the cruise set, on the highway and try to add a couple of miles per hour via the throttle. The pedal goes down a good half inch before the car begins to accelerate. It's very strange. I am actually leaning forward as my body prepares for acceleration that is not coming.

That will probably not go away since the drive-by-wire thing doesn't move the gas pedal to it's "correct" position, relative to the throttle body's position. I will just leave idle sooner due to the new position of the sensor brushes.

I bought the Torx bits all the way down to size 0 (man I hate these things). I feel Ford should either replace all the Phillips head screws and flat screwdriver screws with Torx or not. Pick one.
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I took it upon myself and performed this mod last night. Really easy, except for the contortioning you have to do to get the three mounting bolts off and on. Anyway, Tube, I think you were off on the size of torx bit. The five little screws are smaller than a no.15 bit. I have a no. 10 bit and it was still a tad too big. I wound up stripping out a few before I figured that out. Grabbed my smallest flat tip screwdriver and slightly bent the metal tabs about a mm or so. Put everything back together and test drove. Slight difference, not much. I don't think I had that much of a lag to begin with. For all those concerned about screwing this up I don't think you have much to worry about. Just make sure you have clean surfaces to work on and you'll be fine.
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Consider the source. This mod does not increase throttle responsiveness. The throttle's initial reaction may increase by about a couple thousandth of a second (assuming you had any problem to start with) if you were to jab the peddle. Contrary to what they believe over at censored.com, this will not make your top end higher, will not make your car feel like it has a supercharger and will not make the blades in the throttlebody open any faster. The Emporer has no clothes.
I agree with Stanley (except I wasn't aware about the Emporer ).

And a couple guys have found two different ways to achieve the same results without having to bend anything. See posts #36 and #60 of this thread: Outstanding Throttle Response write up... - WWW.S197FORUM.COM
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