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Old 11-10-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Hello, I have a 2008 v6 mustang and have done some minor modding to it.; A CAI dual cat backs and tune. I really would like to do something a little bigger as in a turbo or supercharger. I was recently leaning to a supercharger but i just found a generic turbo kit on ebay. Its a relatively small turbo a .57 trim. The mustang specific kits are .61 i think. It also said that this kit is capable of around 350 hp which is a big gain over my 210. Another reason i am liking the smaller kit is because it should spool up quicker and reach peak boost earlier. The specific kits are around 5500 just for the kit. This generic kit is only 650 including shipping. Would anyone out there advise one way or the other as to going with this really generic kit?
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Turbos require exhaust piping to and from the unit. Even with model specific kits there always ends up being some fabrication required. Expect a ton of it if you buy a non-specific unit. also figure out where you will get oil from and send it to. You are right about the smaller turbo spooling sooner. Remember a V6 produces less exhaust, therefore spool-up is something that needs to be considered. Less is more in this case. I don't think you will bolt on 140HP with that turbo on that motor. A super charger will net a little less power, but it will be easier.
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DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT GET THAT

is is bull and will cause you more problems then none like they say you get what you pay for well 650 for a kit explains it all , you couldn't even buy my turbo for 650 much less the whole kit , get with velocity on here and see if he is doing v6 kits if not hit up powerhouse411.com a+ kits , and i can say that from experience lol
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+1 to what others said. Also remember, you'll need someone to tune that kit if you do manage to get it installed.

I'd also take a look at the Vortech for the V6, very reasonable and complete with tune.
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yes the vortech is the one i am leaning to if i don't get the turbo. the reasons that i liked this generic one is mainly because i can afford it and if i am not mistaken i could replace the turbo later with a better one. I have nover worked on them, and by the way i am not looking for crazy hp numbers right now, my car is fairly new and i want to keep gains reasonable right now. The things i like about the specific ones are i know they work for my car. But i like the other one because, correct me if i am wrong, piping is piping and Once i have it in i could replace the other components.
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yes the vortech is the one i am leaning to if i don't get the turbo. the reasons that i liked this generic one is mainly because i can afford it and if i am not mistaken i could replace the turbo later with a better one. I have nover worked on them, and by the way i am not looking for crazy hp numbers right now, my car is fairly new and i want to keep gains reasonable right now. The things i like about the specific ones are i know they work for my car. But i like the other one because, correct me if i am wrong, piping is piping and Once i have it in i could replace the other components.
Sure piping is piping. Do you have any idea how you'll run the piping? How you'll get oil to turbo, where you'll mount it, how you'll tune it, etc? In theory what your saying makes sense, in practice is a whole other matter.

The car will have to be dyno tuned since they won't be providing you any tune (since it's non specific).

You'll have to build the necessary brackets to mount the turbo since they won't be provided.

You'll have to relocate certain pieces of existing equipment when you do decide where to mount it.

You'll have to insure that where you have it mounted allows you to get oil to and from the turbo in an efficient manner.

You'll probably have to build several pieces of piping and buy fittings for the kit, you may have to do this several times to get a proper fit.

There are many other issues that just aren't coming to mind at the moment.

I'm not sure what your skill level perhaps this is something you can tackle. However, by the time your done you'll be up there in cost with the other kits and still have an inferior piece of equipment in regards to the turbo.

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oh ok. well my next question was ... about how much does it cost to get a turbo installed and tuned professionally. Because since my car is new and i don't wanna kill it i will have it professionally done. So about how much would that run me on this kit vs. a specified kit roughly
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STS makes a single turbo for the V6, I have a single on mine and love it. The system can be ordered with everything including a tune. I am not sure about the tune supplied as I had mine dyno tuned.
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i also looked at sts,and i really liked them. The problem is a shelled out 1300 for dual cat backs about two weeks before i found it. When i talked to the guy he said that for the sts turbo to work i would have to lose the cat backs. Well he did say he could mount it directly behind the muffler but it would be so restricted that it would not be wise.. How much did you guys pay to have turbos installed, those who did not do it themselves.
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I'm afraid your not going to get too many reputable shops that would want to install a kit like that. However, I could be wrong, just check around. I still think they are going to charge you enough that it would be more cost effective to purchase a kit specific to the car.
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ok i think i will stick to a specific kit then. Anyway how much is a turbo install even a specific kit. I am gonna have to save up for that too
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Okay, u just shelled out 1300 for a dual cat back exhaust just a couple of weeks ago. Do you absolutely HAVE to have a turbo NOW? Everyone on here has told you to get a car specific turbo and at least a canned tune that comes with and they strongly recommend a pro install. They even mention many reputable brands with a proven product.

You keep coming back to the generic despite the overwhelming responses cautioning against that and you try to rationalize why that is the 'right' decision for you. Are you hoping someone will tell you to go for it?

If so, by all means do it. As was said before.....you will have to fabricate or have fabricated a LOT of stuff from mounting brackets (sheet metal or billet machined) to oil lines (bent stainless steel tube or high performance hoses & what kind of fittings?) A lot of decisions will have to be made by you on how to plumb everything in properly.....and you don't sound like you have any experience with this type of work.

The extra money you pay for a specific kit pays for research & development that YOU would otherwise have to do. It all boils down to RISK Management. You can spend less cash and take on more RISK or the inverse.

Personally, I have NO experience with installing a turbo and wouldn't attempt a generic kit on my own car (I will on yours tho ) even though I am an engineer with tons of design/fabrication experience.

Wait a little longer, save up more cash, buy a specific kit, get pro install, ENJOY!
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ok i think i will stick to a specific kit then. Anyway how much is a turbo install even a specific kit. I am gonna have to save up for that too
It depends on the kit and the shop (some kits are more trouble then others). My guess is anywhere from $600.00 to a $1,000.00.

However, unless you just have to have a turbo I'd go with the Vortech. It's not that expensive (I think the v6 kit is 3,000.00) and install will take a skilled shop about half a day (6 to 8 hours). I know that the shop I go to is running a special and doing the non intercooled kit for 3,999.00 this month, thats with a dyno tune.

Look around a little!
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i paid 950 for install and tune on my setup but the install price got knocked down a lil since me and the installer are good friends lol

and wtf your going to pay 1300 for exhausts but want to cheap out on something that can blow your motor ? ok well i'll just leave this 1 alone
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...and wtf your going to pay 1300 for exhausts but want to cheap out on something that can blow your motor ? ok well i'll just leave this 1 alone
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