hey guys. i woke up this morning and looked out my window and noticed something wierd.
i looked at my GT and noticed the black turn signals for the front, have all moisture build up. I purchased these black turn signals off American Muscle.com and they were 100$. i think for that price they should not be having moisture build up inside.
has anyone else had this problem before? im about to jsut take my stock Ambers and Spray tint them.
BTW, there are no cracks for air to build up so i don't know how moisture appeared.
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I have had two different sets of aftermarket tail lights on my F150 and both of them got moisture inside. I have also seen many other sets that do the same thing. The only conclusion is they are not manufactured to the same standards as fatory sets. Saying you didn't seal them properly I don't believe is totally accurate. They are supposed to come sealed from the manufacturer. Here is a trick I used to correct the problem. Dirll a small hole in the bottom of the lens to allow air in. The moisture will evaporate in a day or two. I know it sounds crazy but it works. Some will say that a hole in the lens will just allow more moisture in but in my case it never did. They stayed clear and dry inside. Who knows.
When I say seal I mean they aftermarket light do not fit snug like the stock ones not sure about sides but I bleave the rear light have a strip that goes around them I know when I had my eclipse the aftermarket lights I got were not sealed properly and moisture got in.
I don't know... my fronts fit perfect - I got the clear front markers from AM... so i would really contact them... I am guessing the seal from the aftermarket manufacturer is no good...
A friend on this forum told me never to switch out the taillights... it's begging for a problem... but the fronts have been good to me - - - so far....
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He's talking about the front... Yes, I knew that. I used tail lights just as an example. They are all aftermarket so can suffer from all the same problems.
you just pop them in - no "seal" necessary for fronts, right? Did you do it yourself? Switched mine out and didn't have to "seal" anything... That is correct, you shouldn't have to seal anything.
I'd contact American Muscle - let them deal with the manufacturer.
I agree with that one with the exception that that is usually a pain in the U know What.
I have had two different sets of aftermarket tail lights on my F150 and both of them got moisture inside. I have also seen many other sets that do the same thing. The only conclusion is they are not manufactured to the same standards as fatory sets. Saying you didn't seal them properly I don't believe is totally accurate. They are supposed to come sealed from the manufacturer. Here is a trick I used to correct the problem. Dirll a small hole in the bottom of the lens to allow air in. The moisture will evaporate in a day or two. I know it sounds crazy but it works. Some will say that a hole in the lens will just allow more moisture in but in my case it never did. They stayed clear and dry inside. Who knows.
im scared if i do drill a small hole into them that they will crack. there plastic.. im jsut going to take them out and let them sit in sunlight. then seal them better.
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im scared if i do drill a small hole into them that they will crack. there plastic.. im jsut going to take them out and let them sit in sunlight. then seal them better.
Yes, that's ok to try, but you might be surprised how long sitting in the sun it will still take the moisture to evaporate. Ever seen a car with moisture in the headlights? They sit in the sun all the time and the moisture never leaves. Not even when the lights are running and they get warm. I tried that too. It's funny how easily moisture can get in there but how hard it is to escape. Hopefully you can easily take them apart or figure out a way to seal them better. And as far as the drilling goes, plastic won't crack as easily as you might think. I just used a sharp 1/16th drill and it worked just fine. Not only does that allow air to circulate in there but it also gives the mosture a place to escape. Trust me, I'm no scientist. It just worked for me.
Yes, that's ok to try, but you might be surprised how long sitting in the sun it will still take the moisture to evaporate. Ever seen a car with moisture in the headlights? They sit in the sun all the time and the moisture never leaves. Not even when the lights are running and they get warm. I tried that too. It's funny how easily moisture can get in there but how hard it is to escape. Hopefully you can easily take them apart or figure out a way to seal them better. And as far as the drilling goes, plastic won't crack as easily as you might think. I just used a sharp 1/16th drill and it worked just fine. Not only does that allow air to circulate in there but it also gives the mosture a place to escape. Trust me, I'm no scientist. It just worked for me.
yeah maybe ill just drill the hole in. how good did it work for you? do u get moisture build up still?
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so today when i got home from work i decided im going to drill holes in each turn signal. sealing it woulda took forever. so i drilled 3 holes in each and it came out perfect. i watched the moisture go away instead of letting it sit in the sun n waiting.
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To the OP: Thrilled you got your problem taken care of!
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Originally Posted by Chance
I agree with that one with the exception that that is usually a pain in the U know What.
Well, not sure what you're getting at asking if I did it myself, it doesn't make a difference - or it does to you? ... I brought the car down to our friends shop - he threw it up on the lift and switched them out with me under the car watching him like a hawk... so yeah - I saw exactly what was done He didn't have to seal front markers or drill to let moisture out. If he had to, they would have been returned by now...
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To the OP: Thrilled you got your problem taken care of!
Well, not sure what you're getting at asking if I did it myself, it doesn't make a difference - or it does to you? ... I brought the car down to our friends shop - he threw it up on the lift and switched them out with me under the car watching him like a hawk... so yeah - I saw exactly what was done He didn't have to seal front markers or drill to let moisture out. If he had to, they would have been returned by now...
Sorry, I ment no disrespect. I was only referring to there is a little more to it then popping them in. And again your right, you shouldn't have to reseal or drill. Those lights don't come cheap and everyone should be able to expect a quality product. Drilling is a simple alternative to the hastle of a product return, or the additional cost of paying someone to switch them out again if it's not something you can (do yourself). It's just a neat little trick that works extremely well.
American Muscle's Black Turn Signals 
... you just pop them in - no "seal" necessary for fronts, right?
Switched mine out and didn't have to "seal" anything...
... I brought the car down to our friends shop - he threw it up on the lift and switched them out with me under the car watching him like a hawk... so yeah - I saw exactly what was done 
He didn't have to seal front markers or drill to let moisture out. If he had to, they would have been returned by now... 
