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Old 01-29-2005   #16 (permalink)
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Then how do you explain the 260hp dyno from motortrend on an 2005 auto GT?

http://motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0411_hds_mus/

Like I said it is about 10hp difference between the Auto and manual....Period...
Wow, interesting article and amazing numbers for an auto.

Recalculating the numbers for an auto:

267hp \ 300hp = .89
1-.89 = 11% loss for an auto.

Wow. that is 1% better than the manual box! That is amazing, I wonder how Motor Trend is doing their dyno corrections?

I always said this is the best shifting factory slush box I have ever owned. Oh wait, this is the only slush box I have ever owned!
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That was a good article. They mention a manual trans. should get 0-60 in 4.8,or 4.9 secs which would be great, but I have not seen any magazines report anything quicker than 5.1, so just maybe the auto is as fast as the manual. Or maybe the auto equipped car was just a little bit hotter than most.
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That was a good article. They mention a manual trans. should get 0-60 in 4.8,or 4.9 secs which would be great, but I have not seen any magazines report anything quicker than 5.1, so just maybe the auto is as fast as the manual. Or maybe the auto equipped car was just a little bit hotter than most.
I would guess only 2% of owners of manuals can shift as good as an auto. Miss a shift point or gear however slight will mean higher times and lower speeds.
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Default Let me put it this way....

The manual is always going to produce more hp at the rear wheels than an automatic if the engines have the same hp. PERIOD....

However, the only real difference between the two would be difference in the mechanical loss due to friction in the transmission.

In a manual ( assuming the the clutch does not slip ) the only friction is that of the bearings/Seals and gears. In an auto, there is some additional loss due to friction in the torque converter since the fluid has to have some friction against the walls of the converter. There is also some other very small loses like the vaccuum used to acuate the shifter however, I doubt they even add up to a single hp...

Howeve, anyone who thinks the converter eats up 30hp is delusional....

Typically, there is between 10-15hp loss in an automatic vs a manual.
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