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Old 06-14-2006   #1 (permalink)
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i have been looking for a short throw shifter for my GT. i like the hurst competition the best. i was looking however at the FRPP shifter and guess what, they are the same shifter! it says on the FRPP site that the shifter was made in conjuction with hurst. the difference that i see is i like the hurst ball and shaft better than the stock. the FRPP shifter is designed to use the stock knob. since it is the same shifter, i would sacrifice the look i want if the FRPP shifter is "warranty friendly." does anyone know if ford has any claims to back the vehicle warranty with FRPP parts installed? if not this would seem weird to me, since you get them from your dealer??? - thanks
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Unless it's installed incorrectly I don't see how it could harm anything, hence I wouldn't think it would void the warranty.
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Void- Yes.
They have in LARGE Print that Ford Racing Products are not covered under your New Car Warranty or may not pass emissions in your State. Go to the the Web site or to a Ford Racing Part dealer and they will have a large sign stating the terms.
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I can't believe I am going to respond to yet another "void my warranty" thread....



No. No aftermarket part "voids" your warranty. Now, having said that, if you have a failure, and the dealer can determin that your specific failure is a result of an aftermarket part being installed on your vehicle, then the dealer can deny a warranty claim for that specific failure.


But no, putting a FRPP shifter in your car is not going to "void" your warranty.
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Hawgman is correct. Read for yourself.

http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/magnusonmoss.htm
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Agreed +2, this goes for any aftermarket part...

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I can't believe I am going to respond to yet another "void my warranty" thread....



No. No aftermarket part "voids" your warranty. Now, having said that, if you have a failure, and the dealer can determin that your specific failure is a result of an aftermarket part being installed on your vehicle, then the dealer can deny a warranty claim for that specific failure.


But no, putting a FRPP shifter in your car is not going to "void" your warranty.
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My dealer told me the same thing, so I sent my Roush underdrive pully back. Maybe legally they can't but is it really worth the headache and lawyers trying to fight them? If they refuse who wants to spend 2 years trying to solve it? I'll just wait till mile 36,001 hits. Many things are against the law with consumer issues, but the laws rely heavy on voluntary compliance. Good luck trying to get an underfunded department with a pro-business administration to help you. The odd thing is, the dealer sells stage 3's, their explination was the engines for Roush cars were different, which I doubt. Makes no sense to me, dealers get paid for warrenty repairs.
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Try talking to the Service Manager, and see if he's got your back on this one. The Service Manager at my dealer has his Mustang chipped up and some other mods. If your guy is cool...
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You can read, you can fight but they will not cover it if they can give you a reason not and any magazine in the world can print what they want and I have yet seen anything major to be covered because warranty work on a modified car is like the Kevin Bacon game you can always link back to the part you installed. Just wait till after 36k miles.
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You can read, you can fight but they will not cover it if they can give you a reason not and any magazine in the world can print what they want and I have yet seen anything major to be covered because warranty work on a modified car is like the Kevin Bacon game you can always link back to the part you installed. Just wait till after 36k miles.
The Magnusson-Moss act is not a magazine article, it's a law passed by the U.S. Congress. You're right about linking back to the part. If you put underdrive pulleys on, they can void your warranty for just about any part of your drivetrain if they wanted, but the warranty on the rest of the car would be intact. The laws specifically states that you have the right to replace stock parts with aftermarket upgrade parts if the don't change the nature of the system of the parts you replaced. So if yo want to put in a Hurst shifter, this would not void any part of your warranty.

Also, it is really up to the dealer how much they want to work with you. If you put in those UD pulleys and the dealer won't fix your broken windshield wipers then they are not doing business in accordance with Magnusson-Moss. You can fight them on that, or you can just find a more reasonable dealer.

GTNOS, put in that shifter! It won't void your warrant and you'll LOVE it. I love mine. If you want to be certain for certain about the warranty, just ask you dealer before you put it in. if he says no, ask him how the Magnusson-Moss act affects installing a shifter.
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The Magnusson-Moss act is a joke and means nothing. If they would have given real guid lines which if you read the complete act all 657 pages as my Brother has being a lawyer it means NOTHING. I have a employee whos clutch fell apart. I seen the parts and it looks like Voleo used a warped plate and riveted the pads on which stressed the pads around the rivets and it fell apart going down the freeway at 65mph. It took out the transmission with a huge hole in the bottom the shift fork, throw out bearing and the flywheel is trash also. They will not cover the parts at 5k miles because she had me install a Steeda shifter and with the reverse nature of that bill they voided the transmission part of the warranty. My brother as a favor to me has been looking into this issue and the way everything is written he talked to another lawyer and have determined that you can't win and even if he do it and at a reduced hourly rate you would have $2500 in something to win and you can get new parts and do it for less. The act listed really helped the dealers because they(lawyers) can quote from law that before was a one on one basis which it is not now. Wait till your warranty is up before you modify unless you can afford the repair.
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I think you'll see Ford taking a different stand soon. Latest report that came out about a month ago is FRPP is making big bucks on their aftermarket products, especially with the Mustang. Their profits are above projected, nearly double, so if Ford wants to continue to make $$, which it does, they'll see the light soon regarding the mods and it not causing warranty issues. Also, if you deal predominately with a Performance Ford Dealership, they're attitude about mods is very liberal vs. a non Performance Dealership.
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The dealership will not take the risk of Ford not giving them credit for the defective parts and labor if they can not show that the part was damaged because of a defect. Don't kid yourself on this matter because this has always been the case and no legal act makes any difference.
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GTNOS! Haven't heard from you in a while.

If you only like the look of the ball, get the Saleen Short Shift Adapter. Soooooo easy to install even though the directions were meaningless to me. It costs about $26 if I recall and when installed, shortens the shift great.

Here is how to look at it on your car....

Draw a two inch circle, on a piece of paper. Now draw another so that the circles just touch. That is what the first gear to second gear shift looks like. That's seriously how far the shift knob moves now. [click]

The cool part is that you can keep your old knob and no one will know you have the new shifter so you can swap the old knob back when you take it in for service, leaving the short shift adapter in place. Put the cool new knob on when you leave the dealership
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GTNOS, put in that shifter! It won't void your warrant and you'll LOVE it. I love mine. If you want to be certain for certain about the warranty, just ask you dealer before you put it in. if he says no, ask him how the Magnusson-Moss act affects installing a shifter.
maybe i should have worded this thread a little different, i know that an aftermarket part cant void my warranty unless the dealer links it to a problem. but i also know in real life that dealers freak out when you mod. i was wondering if they would freak on FRPP parts. sounds like they will, just like with any aftermarket parts. i personally would like to see a mechanic link any failure of any part on a car to an aftermarket shifter though.

and 5twenty, i am ordering that shifter after the 4th, i cant wait til 36,001 miles. i cant stand the one in it now. the stock shifter just straight sucks ass. plus, i think i may have f-----d it up. after i went to the track that night when i was having the traction problems, i did some pretty hard shifting in it. now every now and then, i have to wrestle the damn thing into 3rd, it feels like it is binding up in second too sometimes. cheap piece of.......

on another note 5twenty, the NOS bug is biting me very hard with only 3,000 mi on the odo. im seriously considering saying f--- Fords crappy warranty and ordering ZEX. ive had nos before, i aint gonna blow it up.... geez Ford, RELAX! gotta get that shifter first though....
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