So, my only performance mods are borla cat-back and a k&n aircharger, and i have 5-speed. My friend's 2004 350Z has borla cat-back and some CAI too, we are both automatic but he has the tiptronic thing where he can easily shift. So we decide to see who wins a race. I try with the normal 'D' and he kicked my ass big time up till 140 km/h. we go again but I try with the '1 2 3' setup and I was kickin his ass up till I shifted to 'D'. So, what's the deal here? Sometimes I win, sometimes he does, but I'm thinking the Z has much more acceleration (probably a weight thing). The questions are: Will a predator programmer make me a winner? How should I control my leg on the acceleration pedal so that the system shifts whenever I want?
Thanks guys, I really wanna add the 350Z on my 'smoked list'!
I think your gear ratios on the auto may have something to do with it. You say you can kick ass until you change into 4th. There is a big step in the gear ratios between 3 and 4 on the auto. It goes from 1.55:1 to 1:1. 2nd and 3rd gear are lower geared than the stick shift but 4th is the same. At what revs are you upchanging ? Have you function the rev-limiter ? http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_6.gif
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You have a 4 speed auto with electronic OD. So you have 1, 2, D (which is 3rd) and 4th which is your OD. Your tranny will shift into 4th (OD) on its own as long as you leave OD on.
Gears are something you do later, unless you don't use the car as a daily driver.
I concur with a different intake and tune, those are good for nearly 25-30rwhp (on a manual - that is)
I Rented the New Hertz GT-H, they put the 3.55:1 Gears into the Automatics and I Liked it, better than the 3.31 that are in the GT. I think 3.73's would wake up the GT Autos and the car would still be a great daily driver. I have 4.10 in mine and I also use it as a daily driver, around town it's not bad but on the highway I regret the 4.10's.
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yeh the k&n doesn't require any tune, but i think i need one.
Intake - wow Dump the Aircharger POS.. Get the JLT II or the C&L CAI, these are the best for power. SCT II tuner is awsome with the automatics, the changed shift points are sweet, My car barks 2nd and sometimes 3rd.
I'm changing gears around 6 rpm. I don't know guys but some of you are really pushing the limit of the new mustangs, sometimes you overexagurate, like I heard a lot of people saying the new srt8 is an easy kill, I know it's not true.
On another note, is there a big diff between manual and automatic mustangs? can an automatic beat a manual? and what makes a good automatic driver?
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Shifting an auto will slow you down. The computer optimizes the shifts under WOT.
The only thing you'll do is trap fluid between the bands.
It's no longer mechanical, it's computer controlled.
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Woe to him who builds his palace by unrighteousness,his upper rooms by injustice,making his countrymen work for nothing...Does it make you a king to have more and more cedar?Did not your father have food and drink?He did what was right and just,so all went well with him. He defended the cause of the poor and needy,and so all went well...But your eyes and your heart are set only on dishonest gain,on shedding innocent blood and on oppression and extortion. Jer 22:13, 15-17
I'm changing gears around 6 rpm. I don't know guys but some of you are really pushing the limit of the new mustangs, sometimes you overexagurate, like I heard a lot of people saying the new srt8 is an easy kill, I know it's not true.
On another note, is there a big diff between manual and automatic mustangs? can an automatic beat a manual? and what makes a good automatic driver?
supposedly the 05+ auto is quicker than the manual. and a good driver doesnt crash
supposedly the 05+ auto is quicker than the manual. and a good driver doesnt crash
ok let's all laugh at the auto. but seriously, do we "AUTOS" just press on gas full way and let the computer handle the rest or do we intervene with the way we press on the acc pedal?
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ok let's all laugh at the auto. but seriously, do we "AUTOS" just press on gas full way and let the computer handle the rest or do we intervene with the way we press on the acc pedal?
Bring up revs to stall while holding the brake, then release the brake/hit the throttle simultaneously.
That's all. If you want, turn off the OD button,
-and make sure the traction control button is OFF.
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An auto may be more consistent but it is definately is not faster all other variables held contant. Most people can't drive a stick so they are faster in an automatic.
ok let's all laugh at the auto. but seriously, do we "AUTOS" just press on gas full way and let the computer handle the rest or do we intervene with the way we press on the acc pedal?
Just mashing the pedal ain't going to do it. As others have mentioned, best power is with TCS and OD off. You need to experiment to find the "sweet spots" in the pedal, a quick jolt at first, then quick but steady pressure all the way down - don't mash it all the way, all at once, or it just revs way up without much go, or you'll waste your time taking the tread off your tires.
I've never used the power breaking thing and have learned how to launch very quickly without it. It is usually right off the line were I am jumping well ahead of the "opposition" - having a good suspension helps there too. On the track however, that may be a different issue where one would think the drivers would be of higher skill and power braking may be more useful and/or necessary.
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Just mashing the pedal ain't going to do it. As others have mentioned, best power is with TCS and OD off. You need to experiment to find the "sweet spots" in the pedal, a quick jolt at first, then quick but steady pressure all the way down - don't mash it all the way, all at once, or it just revs way up without much go, or you'll waste your time taking the tread off your tires.
you can't completely kill the "torque management" software.
-I tried.
I thought there was NO WAY this thing had 300 hp, then I learned about the software designed to protect the CV joint on the two piece driveshaft.
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An auto may be more consistent but it is definately is not faster all other variables held contant. Most people can't drive a stick so they are faster in an automatic.
The S197's tranny has posted a faster time than the stick (not by much.) Search around Im sure you can find the info.
You will never be able to physically shift as fast as a machine.
The sticks advantage is that it really gives you more control over the car as far as when and how to shift. That being said autos are just as fast and in some cases faster than a stick. It all depends on how its built.
The Vettes auto tranny can keep right up with its stick cousin. It really wasnt untill the S197 that Ford had a nice tranny. The AODE that originally came in my car was a pure slush box.
Just mashing the pedal ain't going to do it. As others have mentioned, best power is with TCS and OD off. You need to experiment to find the "sweet spots" in the pedal, a quick jolt at first, then quick but steady pressure all the way down - don't mash it all the way, all at once, or it just revs way up without much go, or you'll waste your time taking the tread off your tires.
I agree that you need to find your cars "sweet spot". If I mash the pedal my car will sit there and spin terribly and on occasion even shoot sideways. I can give a fast part throttle, let it catch and then lay into it though. Other than that, I'll just sit and spin.
Funny you should mention that. While I was looking at my car on the lift this morning I was wondering why the
hell they did that. Hmmmm.....may need to go with the BMR one-piece composite.
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then I learned about the software designed to protect the CV joint on the two piece driveshaft.
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