I thought you all ready had the V6 so what are you tossing in money for the V6 (20k)
I am seriously soooo confused on what you want to do.
Factor in
3,000 for suspension
2,300 for breaks
500 for computer
1,200 for wiring
350 for intake
500-1000 for a tune
600 for a Radiator
1,200 for the fuel system
2,500 wheels and tires (unless you plan to stay stock but you will still need tires)
and probably another 1,000 for all of the hardware needed and other little things here and there.
That is for the V6 swap and if you are serous about racing expect to spend ALOT of money. The GT will give you the best foundation and a drivable car while it is in the process of being built, the V6 will be do able but really stressful and you will run into issues and problems it will work out but it will be more difficult and there will be more parts needed to be replaced were the GT parts will work but just need to be beefed up IE the rear end.
There is no reason for a 9inch just a new diff, rear gears, and girdle and that 8.8 will out perform any 9 inch the 9 inch will actually rob you of some power and is heavier.
From your last post you only plan to make 450rwho you said i think why spend all this money when a stock GT can handle that and the only mods you will need is suspension and if you really want a transmission.
I thought you all ready had the V6 so what are you tossing in money for the V6 (20k)
I am seriously soooo confused on what you want to do.
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yea, i already have the V6. Im just brining up a very old idea i had. Seeing if anyone would have any other ideas to combine.
but defiantly, im going with a base GT and putting in a 302 stroker kit, comp cams, new heads, supercharger, T56, and adjustable nose and rear spoiler.
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2005 4.0L V6 mustang
MODS: TIRES: Khumo 295/35ZR18 rear, Khumo 245/40ZR18 front. RIMS: Shelby Torque Thrust M 18*10 rear and 18*9 front.
soon: eibach pro-sport system (2.00" lowering) front and back anti-role bars. A 302 or 351W under the hood.... or a trade in 2006 mustang GT with a 5.0L 302 stroker kit. which shall i choose .
ok seriously what are your goals because why upgrade your heads and cams when you do not need to. You are taking parts that have no issues and just throwing them away. I can see the stroker kit because you want a blower but unless you are making over 700rwhp why get cams.
Our cams are good for a lot of power and 800$ for 30hp is not worth it. If we were DOHC I can see it but came mods really are not needed and you are throwing your money away.
Also the stock heads break extremely well and unless you are making excessive power were you are going to lift them off the block you do not need to change the heads maybe just Port and Polish them.
I would not get a T56 I would wait until either the New Tremec 6060 Viper tranny comes out or get the MMR TKO Upgraded Transmission.
I think getting the GT is the best idea and you track race you are going to need ALOT of suspension work because the GT drives like a boat.
How much HP do you want really, how much boost do you want, what compression are you going to run. I would do a turbo over a S/C for track racing.
While I'm all for cams, I'm also staying N/A. I agree with tact about them being used with a s/c. It doesn't appear that too many people get new cams with the s/c or turbo.
I will disagree with the logic about $800 being too much for ~30hp. Many of us have spent in excess of $1200 for headers when many of them don't provide those kind of numbers. If you don't install either yourself, you are looking at about $2K for each after it's all said and done, so you can't slam one's price and not the other's.
I'm also confused about what he wants to do with the car.
While I'm all for cams, I'm also staying N/A. I agree with tact about them being used with a s/c. It doesn't appear that too many people get new cams with the s/c or turbo.
I will disagree with the logic about $800 being too much for ~30hp. Many of us have spent in excess of $1200 for headers when many of them don't provide those kind of numbers. If you don't install either yourself, you are looking at about $2K for each after it's all said and done, so you can't slam one's price and not the other's.
I'm also confused about what he wants to do with the car.
yes but technically headers really are not needed unless you are FI or pushing ALOT of N/A power. Like I have said in tons of previous threads its not about the power its about the transfer of the power and suspension mods.
Im just going to go for a used GT and a MMR stroker Kit.... and some long-tube headers with cutouts.
THATS ALL.....
Unless i get steve Shmidt racing to build me a 351 windsor Cobra engine with EFi.
425 hp without supercharger... could you imagine with?
No replacement of K-member. But i will still need a rear end and a transmission.
but, there is a 90% chance im going to go with a used GT with a stroker.
2005 4.0L V6 mustang
MODS: TIRES: Khumo 295/35ZR18 rear, Khumo 245/40ZR18 front. RIMS: Shelby Torque Thrust M 18*10 rear and 18*9 front.
soon: eibach pro-sport system (2.00" lowering) front and back anti-role bars. A 302 or 351W under the hood.... or a trade in 2006 mustang GT with a 5.0L 302 stroker kit. which shall i choose .
Hey, I don't want you thinking we are trying to tell you WHAT to do. It's your money at the end of the day. As a conisseur of wasting cash on bad decisions, I just didn't want to see you go down a bad path.
I like the GT and stroker decision. Simple suspension upgrades will make that thing sweet.
Im just going to go for a used GT and a MMR stroker Kit.... and some long-tube headers with cutouts.
THATS ALL.....
Unless i get steve Shmidt racing to build me a 351 windsor Cobra engine with EFi.
425 hp without supercharger... could you imagine with?
No replacement of K-member. But i will still need a rear end and a transmission.
but, there is a 90% chance im going to go with a used GT with a stroker.
Isnt your style of racing road racing. You will need a better K-Member and Arms for handling like I said the stock GT drives like a boat and is not that good. If you plan on doing any type of road racing you will want to change out your entire suspension, or you will just dive into every corner.
The stock 8.8 will handle ALOT of power. I am going to be putting out over 650rwhp on the stock rear end with just gears upgraded. They are running 8.8 into 9's. All what a 9 inch is going to do is rob you of some of your power. You do not need a built rear end sense you wont be doing any hard launches it is not the right set up for what you want.
What is the point of having a stroker motor if your only going to be putting out 425 the stock block can take up to 500 with a professional tune and fuel system. Brakes are going to be another thing because the stock ones will not slow you down good enough for the type of racing you want to do. You can build a car differently and spend all most 10 grand less and have a car that will last just as long and that will beat yours around the track.
Also the cobra block would be dumb for you because it is cast iron and it will force you to add an additional 80lbs of weight to your front end. In road racing you want to limit the amount of weight to the front end for proper handling. Not to mention the weight of the supercharger. When Ford Built the Cobra R they did a perfect job building a functional race car. You should get an alum block to save weight and toss out all that crappy suspension because the stock GT suspension will not do you good.
okay. done. heading down to the ford dealership in about an hour. get some info and prices, and trade in value of my V6.
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2005 4.0L V6 mustang
MODS: TIRES: Khumo 295/35ZR18 rear, Khumo 245/40ZR18 front. RIMS: Shelby Torque Thrust M 18*10 rear and 18*9 front.
soon: eibach pro-sport system (2.00" lowering) front and back anti-role bars. A 302 or 351W under the hood.... or a trade in 2006 mustang GT with a 5.0L 302 stroker kit. which shall i choose .
OMFG, so many used GT's to look at. 2003 cobras, 2004 GT's will Low miles, 2005-2007 used GT with low miles. IN every color known to man kind.... its heaven.
I think im going to go for this red one, standard trany, low miles, no dings or scratches, red leather interior...
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2005 4.0L V6 mustang
MODS: TIRES: Khumo 295/35ZR18 rear, Khumo 245/40ZR18 front. RIMS: Shelby Torque Thrust M 18*10 rear and 18*9 front.
soon: eibach pro-sport system (2.00" lowering) front and back anti-role bars. A 302 or 351W under the hood.... or a trade in 2006 mustang GT with a 5.0L 302 stroker kit. which shall i choose .
