[Velocity Turbos]

As everyone knows Mustang Week 2008 ended recently after a great week of fun and MUSTANGS!!! Thanks again to everyone who participated and helped to make Mustang Week 2008 a great show.

We were GOLD sponsors at MW08 this year and I am sure that I got a chance to meet a lot of you there. Well we had a unbelievable number of people ask us if we had a V6 kit they could buy, to which I had to relpy no. Well after we got back we had a number of E-mails about V6 systems also. So I think that we might consider giving you V6 guy and gals the upper hand if we can generate enough interest and preorders.

After looking into the V6 motors a little bit, I have come to find that they are not much different than the V8, they are just 2 pistons short! That means that I could very easily develope a Beautiful and Powerful Turbo System for these cars. If I had to guess I would say that with large injectors you could push over 400hp maybe more! With that kind of power I dont think that you would be having problems with any GT's or stock 03 cobras, You might even be able to throw down on some corvettes once in a while.

We figured that the V6 Turbo System would be the ultimite sleeper! There are alot of advantages with going V6 too. The car is cheaper, you would get better MPG, the car is lighter and you would have more power than a 2003 cobra!

Here are a few things that will be included IF we do get enough interest.
1. The kits will be based off of aftermaket headers (Brand has not been determined yet)
2. The wastegates will be under the car right off the headers.
3. Will include your choice of Turbonetics T4 turbo from a 58mm to a 76mm (No extra charge) All Turbonetics Turbos come with a 1 year NO hassel warranty!
4. Everything but the Turbonetics Turbo comes with a Lifetime limited warranty!
5. Each system will retain the stock catback system as well as be equiped with a cut our, Standard!
6. We will be including 2 rebuild kits for each BOV 50mm and each WG 38mm , plus a lifetime supply of them for as long as you own that system.
7. Each kit will include our 98% efficiant Intercoolers instead of the standard "Bar and Plate" intercoolers that everyone else has! This 98% Efficiant Intercooler is ONLY available through Velocity Turbo Systems.
8. Every piece of silicone is made in the USA and comes with a 1,000,000 mile warranty. Every piece is pressure tested to 400 PSI
9. Each system ordered will be custom tailored to your specific wants and needs. A pre-order worksheet MUST be filled out and Reviewed by me before you can even place the order. After which I will call you and go over all of your wants and needs and then you will be given an order code so that you can place the order that is for you ONLY! Velocity Turbo Systems wants to take the time to deal with you on a personal level before you make your purchase, we want to ensure that you get exactly what it is you are paying for.


I would now like to take a poll of who would be interested in a V6 Turbo System that has a Lifeteme limited warranty on everything but the Trubonetics turbo of your choice. I have no way of determining the price right now. If I had to guess on the high side, I would say that it would be somewhere around $5000

Keep in mind we only need 10 Orders to Develope this System and we will only be able to deliver up to 20 on the first run. So you Must reserve your spot if you would like one of the first Turbo Systems.
We will only be able to do 1 V6 model at a time. So which ever Model get to 10 first will be the first to be produced

The only 2 models we will be doing: 1996-04 and 2005-08


If you would be interested just post "Interested" along with the year of your car.

If you would like to get on a waiting list for a V6 Turbo System then E-mail me for the details. Stephen@VelocityTurboSystems.com


Thanks in advanced for helping us make sure we all have the opportunity to go fast!


Speed

[stlwagon]

I think there's a big potential market for a V6 turbo. Right now it's pretty much the Powerhouse Pipeline or nothing. Nice to have another choice.

[Velocity Turbos]

Our thoughts Exactly! Its more affordable too. You got to give every body the chance to get addicted to POWER!

[xchris]

Originally Posted by Velocity Turbos

Our thoughts Exactly! Its more affordable too. You got to give every body the chance to get addicted to POWER!

Im making 335 rwhp and 400 torque on 93 octane and 8.3 psi, use that as a benchmark to beat, im running powerhouses turbo kit (precision turbo 61mm)

12 psi on another v6 makes about 412 rwhp and i forget how much torque

[Velocity Turbos]

That should be No problem at all! We have the Industries Top manufacturers Backing us so we should be able to beat that!

You might make even more power with our Intercoolers, 98% efficiant cant be beat by anybody! You could probably get another 15% increase in power and you would probably able to run 12psi on 93. At 22psi we had charge temps only 2 degrees above out side temp. Its like running a cold air that make boost! LOL

Those are killer #'s out of a V6 man! Its just proof that the 6's have got some real potential!

[05silverstangv6]

PLEASE PLEASE i love turbos. once i pay off my mustang ill have the money to get a turbo so i cant sign up now. but for 5 grand sounds good and would keep me under a GT's cost with proably more power and.......... BLOW OFF valve i love that noise

[Vlad]

400HP that is impressive!

[xchris]

Originally Posted by Velocity Turbos

That should be No problem at all! We have the Industries Top manufacturers Backing us so we should be able to beat that!

You might make even more power with our Intercoolers, 98% efficiant cant be beat by anybody! You could probably get another 15% increase in power and you would probably able to run 12psi on 93. At 22psi we had charge temps only 2 degrees above out side temp. Its like running a cold air that make boost! LOL

Those are killer #'s out of a V6 man! Its just proof that the 6's have got some real potential!

Your telling me that when you pop the hood you dont feel much extra heat? When i pop the hood not only can i not touch the hood prop because its so hot, i feel like i entered a sauna at the same time and the sad part is... my unit is intercooled. I feel like im going to melt something. If you can prove that your intercooler could keep my turbo system cooler then the intercooler i have now then i would definetly buy it but it would have to be easily compatible. I hope you guys have some really good customer service too because some of these engines are touchy..... i would know lol, my engine blew the first time and powerhouse was top notch at trying to help me and so was my tuner.

As a suggestion you might want to include a kenne bell boost-a-pump in your kit, at 8.3 psi im running at 98% on the stock fuel pump

[kmzeidler]

If I could throw in some recommendation's and you can take them for what it's worth.

xcal2 for tuning is what most of us 05-08v6's already have.

You need 60lb injectors to go 400rwhp+ and if the user plans on building the motor

Silicone coupler's everywhere are tacky and dont work that well. If you can minimize the use of them to about 2-3 that would be quality. Use longer pipe sections with vband flanges instead.

A good shorty header would be okay, but I would say why not do turbo manifolds that come forward. And I would not retain cat's after turbo only retain cats if they are before the turbo. I would give the option for electronic cutout on the downpipe.

3" piping for the entire system, 3" intercooler, 3.5" downpipe/ecutout.

1 wastegate, 1 bov

Relocation of the power steering reservoir is necessary, and why not raise the bar, relocate the battery to the trunk, move the fusebox and ecm where the batt was, relocate the coolant tank, hide the wiring, and powder coat the piping. If you can't pricepoint below the competition then step up your quality for sure.

I think there is still a market for this as long as you make better power, use better parts, better quality, and a better price.

I would be interested in purchasing if I did not plan on building my own setup.

[wtwillie1]

that sounds like a nice kit i'm interested haha. i have a 2007

[lariat351]

Interested!!!!!!!!!!
2006 V6 Convert

[Black Pony]

Also interested! Sounds like fun.
Just drove a friens I6 twin turbo. All smiles.
Looking forward to hearing more.
07 V6 , 5 spd.

[Velocity Turbos]

[quote=kmzeidler;1120979]If I could throw in some recommendation's and you can take them for what it's worth.
A: We love to here your thoughts for sure. Our goal is NOT to bang out whatever and call it a day. We want to make a product that focuses on the wants and needs of the buyer. So if you have an educated opinion or a factual based opinion then dont hold back, it can only help us to produce a product that better addresses your needs.

xcal2 for tuning is what most of us 05-08v6's already have.
Because so many people already have this one of one like it we will most likely not include one with our systems. Although we will provide the buyer with a source, that we have an agreement with, that they will be able to buy one from at a discounted price.

You need 60lb injectors to go 400rwhp+ and if the user plans on building the motor
Yeah that about right, However we have made it a point to not sell any MAF's or Injectors. The reason for this is, there are far to many brands for each and I cant even begin to tell you the kinds of opinions that people have about all of them. We dont want to force the customer to have to use a product that they really hate (for whatever reason).

Silicone coupler's everywhere are tacky and dont work that well. If you can minimize the use of them to about 2-3 that would be quality. Use longer pipe sections with vband flanges instead.
NOTED and I do also think that an excesive number of couplers is not only tacky but a sign of incompetence in the fab department. V-band's on the other hand are not practical for anything that is not running 25psi or higher. The price difference after you factor in the welding of the flange is 7 times more cost per joint for you. Where ever possible I like to try and incorporate 4 inch deep slip joints with a high quality USA made clamp and long as possible pipe sections.

A good shorty header would be okay, but I would say why not do turbo manifolds that come forward. And I would not retain cat's after turbo only retain cats if they are before the turbo. I would give the option for electronic cutout on the downpipe.
Cats before the turbo would not work well for the performance. As for the headers, again you are adding TONS of cost to the kits by having to provide a custom manifold when it is not necessary, the length of the pipe from the heads to the Turbo is not a factor if it is reasonable. If it Must be done then we will do it but if not then why make it cost you more if we dont have to? If the performance is the same then I see no need to add a whole bunch of cost and fab time (thus making production times longer which in turn makes delivery dates longer. The Cut Out, I thought of that already and that is why we use a standard 3 bolt cutout flange so you can just by a electronic cutout the sandwiches between the down pipe and the dump pipe off the cutout. Great suggestions!

3" piping for the entire system, 3" intercooler, 3.5" downpipe/ecutout.
If you have ever studied thermal dynamics then you will understand why this is a bad idea. The hot pipes going to the T4 turbo should only be 2 1/2 for the CFM that is comming out of the heads, anything bigger is just a waste and actually makes it so that it takes more Volume to fill the pipe to spool the Turbo and it will allow the Exhaust gasses to cool before they go through the turbo. By doing that you are loosing Exhaust Velocity and thus loosing a lot of power. The intercoolers that we run will not have to be 3" our cores are 98% efficiant so we will only need to use our 2 1/4 core for anything less than 500hp. Our 3 1/4 core is rated to about 11-1200 HP so that would be Overkill for sure. The Down pipe also will not need to be any larger than 3" because there is NO advantage in running anything bigger. Here is an example: A customer of mine is running a LS1 with a turbo and is making 700HP on pump gas and he wants to start running race gas. So we make adjustments and hes is good to go. He only has a 3"down pipe with 700HP and now with race gas he should run about 800HP because that is the limit in CFM that the 3" pipe can flow. So he tries to go higher than 800hp and gets to 812hp and he cant get any higher, We switch to a 3.5 inch and now he can go to 1300 if he wants. So you can see that there really is not advantage to running a 3.5 vs 3". Intercooler piping will be all 3" after the intercooler and 2.5 before. the outlet of the turbo is only 2.5 and pipe is not a restriction of any kind but the Intercooler is and that is why we run 3" after the IC even though it is not really needed for anything less than 500hp, that and it looks WAY better under the hood which is another important factor to us. It has to look like it was ment to be there and not just made to fit. Again Great Suggestions!

1 wastegate, 1 bov
Maybe, but we will see. 1 BOV very possible, 1 WG not going to happen, I am determind to have some form of a safety in place. Like was said earlier, they are tempermental, so 2 WGs will Guarantee that 10psi stays 10psi and dosent jump to 10.8psi every once in a while like some of these other JOKE turbo kits out there.

Relocation of the power steering reservoir is necessary, and why not raise the bar, relocate the battery to the trunk, move the fusebox and ecm where the batt was, relocate the coolant tank, hide the wiring, and powder coat the piping. If you can't pricepoint below the competition then step up your quality for sure.
Quality is always #1, but a average person cant do what you are saying, so they would have to get a shop to do it and it could cost another $1000 depending on the shop. I did all of what you are saying on my 5.0 and man it was not something that I am ever going to expect the customer to do to be able to install the turbo system. Battery relocation is a possibility depending on where I decide to put the turbo. All the cold pipes will be coated but not powder coated, that would just chip off or burn and wont provide any thermal protection. We use HPC/JetHot's sterling coating on our cold pipes to keep them cool and to keep them Blinging.


I think there is still a market for this as long as you make better power, use better parts, better quality, and a better price.
I agree there is but not as big of one as you might think. Our kits will make better power and will use the best parts and Great quality and a Good price. With all that you suggested the above statment about good price would be out the window. If we were to do everything that you suggested the Retail Price would have to be somewhere in the $8-9,000 range and I dont know anybody that would spend that when they could have a FULL CUSTOM unit done by us that would be $2,000 cheaper and be made the way they want. Its like asking to pay $50,000 for a new 599GTB Fiorano. It would be great but its not going to happen. I think that everyone on here that is interested is the market! And at the Price stated above they would no longer be interested! I want them to be happy with what they buy and how much they paid, if they want custom then I have NO problem giving it to them, whether is be 200hp or 2500hp!

I would be interested in purchasing if I did not plan on building my own setup.
When you are done I would LOVE to see it! I am sure that I am not the only one, I can appreciate the desire for perfection! When you get ready to order the parts to get started let me know and I will get it for you, I carry all the turbo brands and Many other products that will get you started! Thanks againg for your suggestions I literally Printed it out and filed it in the V6 Prototype file.

Thanks again to everybody who has responded! We are getting more responce than I though much faster than I though, so that is good. At this rate it is looking good for the V6 systems. Lets get the word out there and we can get this thing done. The more we can get the cheaper I will sell the first sets for!

[xchris]

I'll tell you now, if you can sell the kit for the same price as an x-charger you'll have a whole lot of buyers, it seems people can come up with $3,000 alot quicker then $4500-5,000

[Velocity Turbos]

Originally Posted by xchris

I'll tell you now, if you can sell the kit for the same price as an x-charger you'll have a whole lot of buyers, it seems people can come up with $3,000 alot quicker then $4500-5,000

I may be able to get it lower than $5k If I get 10 people that are ready to get one. I am going to make what they want at our quality level. That is why I am gauging interest, I want to know what you guys want and if we get like 10-20 guys that want to drop $4-4,500 for a Quality turbo kit with a turbonetics turbo and a 1 year warranty instead of the lifetime then I think I might be able to do that.

If we could get 20 people that were willing to buy one and give a deposit. I would be willing to consider pricing adjustments according to what everyone wants to pay within reason. There would be sacrafices that would have to be made to achieve anything below $4,000 and I am not willing to make those because you will pay the price in the long run. Quality sets price but that doesnt mean that there is no room to move. It just mean that there is not a ton of room to move. Blowers are cheap because they are cheap to make. Turbos are much less forgiving when you start cutting corners!