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Old 04-19-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Hi again...I have read/heard opinion to the effect that both cars have the same chassis and that therefore they have the same engine bay capacity....I have also heard that space is at a premium with the V8, which would suggest that the bigger engine is occupying the same space that its V6 compatriot does.

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I have also heard that space is at a premium with the V8, which would suggest that the bigger engine is occupying the same space that its V6 compatriot does.

Is this the case?

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Yes. I swear, I can almost stand in the engine bay of a V6, that poor lil' engine looks a bit lost in there
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Hi again...I have read/heard opinion to the effect that both cars have the same chassis and that therefore they have the same engine bay capacity....I have also heard that space is at a premium with the V8, which would suggest that the bigger engine is occupying the same space that its V6 compatriot does.

Is this the case?

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They are the same size, only the GT's is half full of engine.

The Shelby's engine bay gauge is on "F".

For "FULL".
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Look at it this way, for the v6 you can pull the headers out of the top of the engine bay and the v8 must go out the bottom of the car.
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My old Bronco had the 4.9L straight six. when I changed the oil, I could sit on the quarter panel, with my legs in the engine bay. One foot on the engine mount and one on the wheel well. Made it a lot easier to add the oil.
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Hi fellas...thanks for the replies. The reason I ask is that I have come to the conclusion that the V8 engine in the GT is really only a slightly bigger version of the annoying lump that exists in the V6. They both have the same flaws: not enough valves, only one Camshaft, redline is a bit low. I've settled on the V6 as my first import duty with an engine change somewhere down the line. Of all the options I've figured this is the best, from what I've gathered. Just wanted to see what the story was on engine bay capacity. Thanks again.
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If you check Ford's SVT page about the development of the new Shelby, you can see that even that monster fits in there. When you see the engine, you can tell why it started as a truck engine. It's like a giant ball of an engine on a big honkin' tranny.

Whenever you are getting more than one hp per cubic inch, normally aspirated, you are doing great.
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i think the underhood space is the same for both the v-8 and the v-6 the v-6 is quite a bit smaller than the v8 so with the engine in the car there is more space on a v-6 car.
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If you check Ford's SVT page about the development of the new Shelby, you can see that even that monster fits in there. When you see the engine, you can tell why it started as a truck engine. It's like a giant ball of an engine on a big honkin' tranny.

Whenever you are getting more than one hp per cubic inch, normally aspirated, you are doing great.
The Audi S4 is a naturally aspirated 4.2 l V8 (256 CI) and produces 440 BHP but only 317 lb/ft torque but also redlines at 8250RPM.

The Shelby is a 5.4l V8 Blown: I like it cos its a DOHC but it only redlines at 6250..why not get it to redline a bit higher??

As you can see: its hard to get any sort of a happy medium. Its the high revving DOHC with high power but less torq from Europe, or a bigger, chuggier but more powerful blown unit in America.

Thats why I am looking around.

As it happens...a 5.4l might defeat the purpose: too much weight hanging around the front axle.
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i think the underhood space is the same for both the v-8 and the v-6 the v-6 is quite a bit smaller than the v8 so with the engine in the car there is more space on a v-6 car.
Thats what I have been hearing~ and that a lot of modders are getting more from their V6 because they have found it easier to mod. The GT crew leave theirs alone cos its an awkward proposition. Kind of ironic.
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Thats what I have been hearing~ and that a lot of modders are getting more from their V6 because they have found it easier to mod. The GT crew leave theirs alone cos its an awkward proposition. Kind of ironic.
Dude that remark makes no sense at all. Look around this forum at all the guys modding V8's. Hardly anyone leaves them untouched.
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Dude that remark makes no sense at all. Look around this forum at all the guys modding V8's. Hardly anyone leaves them untouched.
I agree. At least on this forum, almost no one doesn't mod their V8.

The V8 also *has* more mods available. There are gobs more V6s on the road but look at the turnover, in the posts on the GT Tech section. I am aways surprised by that.

The V6 section has 8 posts less than a day old. The V8 section has 18.

I think the V6 aftermarket mods will really take off in the coming years. I wonder if a turbo off a powerstroke would work for the 4.0? An inexpensive turbo manufacturer would clean up!!!
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Dude that remark makes no sense at all. Look around this forum at all the guys modding V8's. Hardly anyone leaves them untouched.
All I can say in reply is that for every guy that is asking a question about blowing his V6, there is another guy saying "why didn't you just buy the V8"
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All I can say in reply is that for every guy that is asking a question about blowing his V6, there is another guy saying "why didn't you just buy the V8"
How much is a S/C for a 6? Is it the same as the V8 price? I know Ford has them for about $4900 (for the GT anyway).

What's the difference in price between the V6 and the GT? Duh, I know what I can do... just looked it up... $6400 (comparing base model to base model)

The GT comes with a beefier transmission.
Different engine.
Different sway bars in front and rear.
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Different tires and wheels (the base model V6 wheels/tires do not look right! I've only seen them once.)
Different body kit/bumpers.
Different exhaust.

When I bought mine, the GT was 1/10 inch wider and 1/2 inch longer than the V6. Now the GT is just longer. Who knows?

It's about that much $$ in upgrades, so if you put a $4000 supercharger on, to get 300hp, you have to start asking if you can afford that, can you afford the extra to buy the more expensive car with the other goodies.

'Course who doesn't mod their car? Well, those who are not car people.

Can you buy a Mustang and not become a car guy? V6 or GT, Manual or Auto...

Mod away, Grasshopper. Mod away.
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How much is a S/C for a 6? Is it the same as the V8 price? I know Ford has them for about $4900 (for the GT anyway).

What's the difference in price between the V6 and the GT? Duh, I know what I can do... just looked it up... $6400 (comparing base model to base model)

The GT comes with a beefier transmission.
Different engine.
Different sway bars in front and rear.
Different driveshaft.
Different differential.
Different tires and wheels (the base model V6 wheels/tires do not
Different body kit/bumpers.
Different exhaust.
look right! I've only seen them once.)

When I bought mine, the GT was 1/10 inch wider and 1/2 inch longer than the V6. Now the GT is just longer. Who knows?

It's about that much $$ in upgrades, so if you put a $4000 supercharger on, to get 300hp, you have to start asking if you can afford that, can you afford the extra to buy the more expensive car with the other goodies.

'Course who doesn't mod their car? Well, those who are not car people.

Can you buy a Mustang and not become a car guy? V6 or GT, Manual or Auto...

Mod away, Grasshopper. Mod away.
See the highlighted part: its my point! The V8 is, well, a modified version of a V6, when you get right down to it. Hence the argument to the effect that rather than buy a V6 and change it, just buy a V8. Its not my argument....I'd buy a V6 for one reason, and a V8 for another reason...but some people do make it their argument.
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