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Unread 06-12-2009   #1 (permalink)
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Default Spark plug horror?... Enter Snap-on spark plug extractor

Just saw it on Motorweek TV:
Broke or snapped your spark plug? Here's a way to remove what's left of the spark plug inside the cylinder head.

FSPK, Set, Spark Plug Extractor, Ford Triton

Instead of spending several hundreds of dollars, this tool is just $90.

Ad says it's for a Triton engine. Hey, don't the 5.4 and 4.6 use the same size spark plug? Different kind maybe, but same size, right?

Anybody had tried this tool? Please post your experience if you did.
I know I'm gonna keep this tool in mind in case I snap one of my plugs.

Another one to keep in mind is to buy the Champion brand single piece spark plug. Champion says "It will never break".

My question: part of using the tool is to use a tap to create new threads on the remaining part of the plug inside the cylinder head. When you create new threads, you also create metal shavings. I wonder how much damage those metal shavings would do if they fall inside the cylinder? Then again, which one would I rather have: take a chance in slightly damaging my cylinder or have a completely useless engine or pay several hundreds of dollars on having the dealer do it for me? Which doesn't guarantee their method will be different and will not leave debris in the cylinder.
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Looks promising... a lot better than paying Ford $250 to remove one!
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Looks promising... a lot better than paying Ford $250 to remove one!
Yep... just look at your options:

$250 for each plug at the dealer
or
$90+shipping for up to 8 plugs (if you switch to Champion plugs after)

Then, you can sell it for less to help somebody out and get some of your money back. YOU CAN'T BEAT THAT!!!
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I made my own tool for less than 5 bucks. 3/8 tap welded into a 3/8 deep socket. 12 inch long piece of 3/8 threaded rod, and a few deep sockets, and washers. worked like a champ!!!

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Awesome find! Now I'm not so worried about shelling out a lot of money in case I break a spark plug.
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I made my own tool for less than 5 bucks. 3/8 tap welded into a 3/8 deep socket. 12 inch long piece of 3/8 threaded rod, and a few deep sockets, and washers. worked like a champ!!!

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mustangbaxter, can you please show us how exactly can we make the same tool that you made? I mean, a $90 repair is already great for what would normally cost $250 a plug. But $5 to make your own tool, I don't think you can get any better than that. Pictures would definitely help.

I bet a bunch of us would be keeping this thread in mind if we ever pop one of our plugs.

Thanks in advance!!!
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Sure no problem.

first picture is of the broken spark plug removed, and the 3/8 inch tap that was welded into a 1/4 -3/8 inch deep socket.

The second picture shows where I tapped into the broken piece that was stuck deep down into the head. All I used for that was a long 1/4 extension that I had to reach down deep into the head. I used a BIG gob of grease so that the metal shaving s would stick to the grease, and not fall into the motor.

The third pict is how I removed that sleave piece. I screwed the 12 inch long 3/8 rod into the sleave that was stuck in the head. I then locked 2 nuts on the top of the other side of the rod, so I would have somethng to hold the rod still. Then I took 2 large sockets, one that fit perfectly into the top part of where the COP covers, then a deep socket on top of that. Then a large washer was placed over the top deep socket, and I ran down the third nut so it was snug with the washer that was on top of the socket, that was resting on top of the head.

make sence????

This way, all I had to do was slowly turn the nut that was on top of the washer, and have the homemade tool, " Pull " out the stuck piece.

If someone needs to borrow it, and promise to return it, then you can borrow it.

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To stop breaking the stock plugs the shop I use has a new method.

They extract the stock plugs with an impact. I know sounds crazy. However I guess the quick and sudden hit of the impact frees them up. Haven't broken one since doing it that way.

Can't say they figured that one out themselves, they were speaking to a dealership mechanic and he told them that's how they were doing it.
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To stop breaking the stock plugs the shop I use has a new method.

They extract the stock plugs with an impact. I know sounds crazy. However I guess the quick and sudden hit of the impact frees them up. Haven't broken one since doing it that way.

Can't say they figured that one out themselves, they were speaking to a dealership mechanic and he told them that's how they were doing it.
sounds like a plan. So who has never pull there plugs with over 40K that wants to try it......???
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sounds like a plan. So who has never pull there plugs with over 40K that wants to try it......???
Shop did one the other day had 50,000+ miles on the car.

That's the only reason I posted it, didn't want to suggest it and someone break one. I've known about it for a couple months now. Honestly when they told me.....I thought they were full of ****! However, since see it with my own eye's....seems to be the ticket.

Disclaimer: Doesn't mean it works everytime, just seen some success with the method. Use at your own risk!
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Shop did one the other day had 50,000+ miles on the car.

That's the only reason I posted it, didn't want to suggest it and someone break one. I've known about it for a couple months now. Honestly when they told me.....I thought they were full of ****! However, since see it with my own eye's....seems to be the ticket.

Disclaimer: Doesn't mean it works everytime, just seen some success with the method. Use at your own risk!
I like the CYA disclaimer...... I'm going to swap plug this week if i get time. Mine have been out before.
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Just used these instructions to make a home made tool and it worked like a charm! First spark plug I pulled on my F150 snapped as soon as it started rotating. Couldn't even get it loosened 1/4 turn to soak it! No need to weld the tap, I just taped it to the socket with electrical tape. Now I'm too scared to touch the rest now because they are much harder to get to. I just put back in one of my old Mustang plugs. Maybe I'll have the dealer do the change out to Champion 7989's. Anyone know if they charge extra if they are the ones that break the plugs?
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i have the same problem with one of my plugs. how do you get the remaining porcelain out of the copper sleeve?
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i have the same problem with one of my plugs. how do you get the remaining porcelain out of the copper sleeve?
If your plug looks like this:
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...70-post35.html

Then you'll need this:
http://www.amazon.com/Lisle-LIS65600.../dp/B00267PZUK

Make sure you use compressed air and clean out the plug well before you remove the broken plug. After you take the broken plug out, be sure you blow out the top of the piston head to remove any porcelain that might have fallen in. I've used the compressed air cans that are for cleaning computer keyboards and it's worked for me.
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My Ford Stealership said they would charge up to $1000 if all 8 plugs broke. What BS so DIY time. I took my time and replaced them all with the Champions and didn't break any. I followed the TSB and used a torque wrench and soaked the crap out of them.
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