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Default Roush Stage 2 - waste of money?

I was looking at a Roush Stage 2, and it occured to me that it might be a total rip off.
With basically only suspension, exterior and interior mods on it, how can they justify the crazy prices? Saw one in the $40K's.

It seems like you could buy a stock GT, throw on a supercharger and a lot of other addons and have a much better car.

What am I missing, is it just the 'roush' name?
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Thats what I did.
Who in their right mind pays 40 grand to have Jack Rousch's name plastered all over their Mustang GT?
You can upgrade brakes and suspension easily.
I wouldnt even consider a stage III Rousch as you dont get what you pay for. Slap on a new KB 3.6 or a turbo, and eat Rousch cars for lunch.
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Thats what I did.
Who in their right mind pays 40 grand to have Jack Rousch's name plastered all over their Mustang GT?
You can upgrade brakes and suspension easily.
I wouldnt even consider a stage III Rousch as you dont get what you pay for. Slap on a new KB 3.6 or a turbo, and eat Rousch cars for lunch.
Its about 1k for Jack Roushs name If you price out all the parts, and a mustang GT with the same options. If you think about it... It might actualy be worth it, if you like the stuff already on the car in the Stage II. The car would hold its value more then a modded mustang GT.
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Its about 1k for Jack Roushs name If you price out all the parts, and a mustang GT with the same options. If you think about it... It might actualy be worth it, if you like the stuff already on the car in the Stage II. The car would hold its value more then a modded mustang GT.
What bothers me is that it got tested and did the 0-60 in 5.1 seconds. Thats terrible for a $40,000 car.
A GT withi CAI, tune, delete plates, and underdrive pullies would do better.

I think they look great... but that sticker price is insane.
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I'm not a fan of buying a specialty car like Roush or Steeda just because I feel like it removes the fun from modding my own car! This way and can pick a choose what I want and get the results I want.
 
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I'm not a fan of buying a specialty car like Roush or Steeda just because I feel like it removes the fun from modding my own car! This way and can pick a choose what I want and get the results I want.
If I had to do it all over again I might not have done it. But I always wanted one. I do agree with you though.
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You can get the body kit and the suspension all for about $5000. I would definetly rather build it myself though.
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What bothers me is that it got tested and did the 0-60 in 5.1 seconds. Thats terrible for a $40,000 car.
A GT withi CAI, tune, delete plates, and underdrive pullies would do better.

I think they look great... but that sticker price is insane.
Your really need to understand what the Roush Mustang is all about. Its a Track car, built to go around turns fast, and it does that very well.

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I believe people buy these cars for 3 main reasons;

1. the name
2. performance modifications they do not have to do
3. everything is still warrantied by the dealer

The owners can still mode the car with smaller pulleys, new tune, delete plates, etc...
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Your really need to understand what the Roush Mustang is all about. Its a Track car, built to go around turns fast, and it does that very well.

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If thats a persons goal, I assume they could take a stock GT and put $10 grand into upgrades and outperform it for less $.

If the goal is just to perform well on the track, the body mods are not needed. Ill bet Stl could make a sick track car for less than $40k.
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Well, I bought my Roush '07' 427R not for the name but the suspension, motor and interior upgrades. List was about 47K. Look at the price of the standard Shelby GT was getting, think it was over 40K. I know a lot of you out there would rather do it yourselves and are able to. It's still going to take a forged bottom end and a good SC of you choice to get some good numbers out of the 4.6. I like the Roush at the higher levels because of the complete package. A dealer down in Daytona Beach is selling the new 427R's for 43-48K, that's the standard motor with the old M-90 blower. Skilmans in Indiana has the 540HR (540 rated HP but tests more at 500 rwhp) for under 50K. That model is just a plain Jane looking GT with the Roush motor and suspension but can run 11.8 secs off the showroom floor. Just so many options and ways to go anymore.
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If thats a persons goal, I assume they could take a stock GT and put $10 grand into upgrades and outperform it for less $.

If the goal is just to perform well on the track, the body mods are not needed. Ill bet Stl could make a sick track car for less than $40k.
I never said a roush is only a track car... Itís a Daily Drivable, Comfortable, Track Ready, Awesome looking (subject to opinion), Nice Sounding (subject to opinion), Decent drag car, Street legal, OEM Car.


Some people donít want to hassle with installing extra things
Some people want to have a warranty
Some people would rather pay a monthly payment then all at once for mods
Some people might want the extra resale value later down the road

Thereís a million reasons why someone might buy the car, Buy just saying " itís a waste of money donít buy it " is ridiculous. Just because the car doesnít fit your needs and wants doesnít mean it wonít for others.
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I believe people buy these cars for 3 main reasons;

1. the name
2. performance modifications they do not have to do
3. everything is still warrantied by the dealer

The owners can still mode the car with smaller pulleys, new tune, delete plates, etc...
Also, the value of the car will be higher for insurance purpouses, for example:

you buy a Roush for $40k and in two years you total the car, the book value is $35k and that what insurance pays you.

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You buy a loaded GT for $30K and invest another $10K to get all the performance goodies and then some like the Roush. Two years later, you total the car and the book value is now $22K and thats what insurance pays you. Your assed out on all the performance parts you and labor you put in, insurance wont compensate you for it and may even drop coverage if they find out you modified the brakes, exhuast and such.

Also, buying a Roush or factory aftermarket branded car holds the same quality of consistancy as the factory, if youv modded your car you know that it doesnt always come out perfect and regardless of where the work gets done, its not always great.

That said, i have a GT with a bunch of hook up parts that can kick a Roush' Ass :hihi:
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Also, the value of the car will be higher for insurance purpouses, for example:

you buy a Roush for $40k and in two years you total the car, the book value is $35k and that what insurance pays you.

or

You buy a loaded GT for $30K and invest another $10K to get all the performance goodies and then some like the Roush. Two years later, you total the car and the book value is now $22K and thats what insurance pays you. Your assed out on all the performance parts you and labor you put in, insurance wont compensate you for it and may even drop coverage if they find out you modified the brakes, exhuast and such.

Also, buying a Roush or factory aftermarket branded car holds the same quality of consistancy as the factory, if youv modded your car you know that it doesnt always come out perfect and regardless of where the work gets done, its not always great.

That said, i have a GT with a bunch of hook up parts that can kick a Roush' Ass :hihi:
So you mean to tell me your current insurance provider wouldn't want to sell you a more expensive policy that would cover all your modifications so you wouldn't be assed out or you just don't want to tell them so they don't raise your rates? Not to mention there are several specialty insurance providers that cover modified cars and probably have more competetive rates.
 
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