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Peet 01-27-2005 06:12 PM

Auto Dimming rear view mirror with homelink
 
Any of you install one of these beasties? Here is a page of one (by Gentex)...

In any case, if you did this mod, how did you do your wiring? (especially the reverse + cable). What sort of deal were you able to get on it?

Thanks!

Severus 01-27-2005 07:58 PM

I have been thinking about one of those... when I get the car of course....
Let me know if you figure it out.

Anthony

sonny1213 01-27-2005 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Severus
I have been thinking about one of those... when I get the car of course....
Let me know if you figure it out.

Anthony

I ordered my car on 12-06 and was p/o'd this wasn't an option. I asked the dealer if the plant could install this item when the car was being built. I got a flat out "NO". I don't think they even checked for me. BTW, I'm still clean and unsched. as of 1-25. I got this part # 4L3Z-17700-BA auto dimming compass w/ homelink & temp. display. I think it's about $4 bills. :yup: I heard the whole headliner has to be yanked out! :eek:

Severus 01-27-2005 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sonny1213
I ordered my car on 12-06 and was p/o'd this wasn't an option. I asked the dealer if the plant could install this item when the car was being built. I got a flat out "NO". I don't think they even checked for me. BTW, I'm still clean and unsched. as of 1-25. I got this part # 4L3Z-17700-BA auto dimming compass w/ homelink & temp. display. I think it's about $4 bills. :yup: I heard the whole headliner has to be yanked out! :eek:

Thatís what I was afraid of with some of those accessories. I don't want them tearing my new car apart to put in accessories that could have been factory installed. Im thinking I may install them myself. Im just being lazy.

sonny1213 01-27-2005 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Severus
Thatís what I was afraid of with some of those accessories. I don't want them tearing my new car apart to put in accessories that could have been factory installed. Im thinking I may install them myself. Im just being lazy.

I will check at a local high end audio store that I've used in the past. I see them w/ brand new vehicles all the time w/ all goodies going in. I'll ask the owner what he knows about the install. I don't want some dealer dude that just did a LOF tearing away at the headliner.

ChestyP79 01-28-2005 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Peet
Any of you install one of these beasties? Here is a page of one (by Gentex)...

In any case, if you did this mod, how did you do your wiring? (especially the reverse + cable). What sort of deal were you able to get on it?

Thanks!

I like the mood lighting. :naughty........:smoke:

sonny1213 01-28-2005 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ChestyP79
I like the mood lighting. :naughty........:smoke:

:what: I didn't see that option when searching for a mirror :eyepoppin

MGPony 01-28-2005 09:22 AM

That's an accessory I really miss from a previous car. I miss the thermometer, and having the homelink is really great to have to eliminate the garage door opener. I wonder how much that is?

sonny1213 01-28-2005 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MGPony
That's an accessory I really miss from a previous car. I miss the thermometer, and having the homelink is really great to have to eliminate the garage door opener. I wonder how much that is?

Now for some reason the mirror I found last month is not listed. It had auto-dimming, compass, temp display w/ homelink. Now it's just auto-dimming w/ homelink @ $383.41
I have two suv's w/ homelink and it's sure handy. :gringreen

sonny1213 01-28-2005 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Severus
Thatís what I was afraid of with some of those accessories. I don't want them tearing my new car apart to put in accessories that could have been factory installed. Im thinking I may install them myself. Im just being lazy.

I just spoke w/ the owner/friend of an audio-video store. They put them in all the time and the headliner does not have to be removed. They have had some problems w/ the temp-compass ones though. Gentex makes 3 different models. I always have my radar detectors hard wired on new vehicles at this place and it's similar to that. The wire goes inside the edge of the liner and down the pillar to a power source. Ahyhoo, he assured me it's not a big deal :clap They do have one w/ a light on itÖ not sure if it's moody though. :D

Peet 01-29-2005 12:55 AM

sonny's right and to expand on it - the install is 3 wires positive, negative and reverse light sensor. Given those wires you can have homelink, mirror and lighting from the mirror (LED or otherwise). If you want temp - it's an additional wire, it needs to be run through the firewall to a sensor (provided) that mounts near the front bumper. Not a bad install all in all if you're handy.

I've discovered now that the mirrors range in price from $191 to $400 (for THE SAME DARNED THING!) nuts. Ford wants $383, Subaru sells i tfor $191, Nissan for $250 -- it's the same Gentex mirror. So I may just jump on the subby one and hack the wiring. I imagine it comes with plugs for the subaru that's why they'll need hacking.

Let's keep this moving - maybe we can solve this quickly.

The ford one, by the way is the same one that's available on explorer and other models. The reason these are so hard to find mail order is because HomeLink (aka Johnson Controls) requires that installing dealers be the only ones that legitimately sell them. This is why you can get a standard electrochromic mirrors without homelink on the net but not with the home link.

P

MGPony 01-29-2005 09:58 AM

With regard to installation of these mirrors, there's obviously a wire cluster that goes to the headliner. The windshield has that nice Pony sillouette above the mirror. Will the graphics for this obstruct the installation?

BLKOUT-05GT 01-29-2005 02:19 PM

I installed this mirror a couple of weeks ago, Ford part# 4L3Z-17700-AA. It is an Auto-Dimming Compass Mirror, with Homelink, without Temp Display. The mirror is made by Gentex. List price was $383.41, I paid $325.00 from my dealer. The installation took me about two hours. Now that I know what to do, I could do an install in half the time.

The installation instructions are not included with the mirror. I had to get the installation instructions from the service department at my dealer. While waiting for the installation instuctions to print, the service guy said that they break about 80% of the windshields that they try to remove a mirror from. The proceedure that my dealer uses to remove mirrors is done as outlined from the factory service manuals. That was encouraging!

I did a search on the internet and found a window tinter's forum. The window tinters also write about broken windshields when removing Ford mirrors. I am beginning to think this is not such a good idea after all. I continue to read the threads and found someone who knows how to remove Ford mirrors without breakning the windshield. I removed the mirror as detailed on the forum. It was easy!

This is how to remove a Ford mirror without breaking the windshield as explained on the window tinter's forum. Sorry, I did not take any pics.

Insert a small blade screwdriver in the slot at the top of mirror bracket located at the windshield. Gently pry the mirror bracket away from the windshield while pushing the mirror upward and off. It was that easy!

The wiring is straight foward following the printed instructions. You do not have to remove the headliner. You do have to remove the passenger side visor and visor clip. Remove the passenger side pillar cover by pulling the cover away from the piller. Snap clips hold the cover in place. Pull the headliner down enough to route the wiring toward the passenger side and down the pillar. Attach the wiring at the fuse box as detailed in the printed instructions. The fuse box is located in the passenger side kick panel. Secure the wiring, re-assemble, and enjoy.

sonny1213 01-30-2005 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BLKOUT-05GT
I installed this mirror a couple of weeks ago, Ford part# 4L3Z-17700-AA. It is an Auto-Dimming Compass Mirror, with Homelink, without Temp Display. The mirror is made by Gentex. List price was $383.41, I paid $325.00 from my dealer. The installation took me about two hours. Now that I know what to do, I could do an install in half the time.

The installation instructions are not included with the mirror. I had to get the installation instructions from the service department at my dealer. While waiting for the installation instuctions to print, the service guy said that they break about 80% of the windshields that they try to remove a mirror from. The proceedure that my dealer uses to remove mirrors is done as outlined from the factory service manuals. That was encouraging!

I did a search on the internet and found a window tinter's forum. The window tinters also write about broken windshields when removing Ford mirrors. I am beginning to think this is not such a good idea after all. I continue to read the threads and found someone who knows how to remove Ford mirrors without breakning the windshield. I removed the mirror as detailed on the forum. It was easy!

[foHeynt=Tahoma]This is how to remove a Ford mirror without breaking the windshield as explained on the window tinter's forum. Sorry, I did not take any pics.[/font]

Insert a small blade screwdriver in the slot at the top of mirror bracket located at the windshield. Gently pry the mirror bracket away from the windshield while pushing the mirror upward and off. It was that easy!

The wiring is straight foward following the printed instructions. You do not have to remove the headliner. You do have to remove the passenger side visor and visor clip. Remove the passenger side pillar cover by pulling the cover away from the piller. Snap clips hold the cover in place. Pull the headliner down enough to route the wiring toward the passenger side and down the pillar. Attach the wiring at the fuse box as detailed in the printed instructions. The fuse box is located in the passenger side kick panel. Secure the wiring, re-assemble, and enjoy.

Hey BLKOUT, Nice job on the mirror and info!
:thumbsup You took off the old mirror button, which sounds scary now w/ an 80% chance of windshield breakage. I've knocked off a few w/ my head, though not on purpose. How does the new mirror get supported? Thanks!! still C&U as of 1-27 :gringreen

nonsensez9 01-31-2005 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sonny1213
I always have my radar detectors hard wired on new vehicles

where do you mount your radar detector, and are there any visible wires dangling about?


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