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Robs1stStang 11-16-2013 10:13 PM

Stock brake rotors
 
Hey gents, just have a few questions on a budget brake upgrade. I'm not going for a big brake upgrade anytime soon. Because there is so much conflicting info on the subject and many hours were spent using the search function to no avail, I'm forced to post so bear with me. I experienced some pretty wicked brake fade the other day so I figure it would be prudent and safe to upgrade. I was slowing from a couple of runs up to about 130mph. I never experienced fade before and it woke me up pretty quickly.

My current thoughts on this matter is to upgrade the pads to EBC yellows, Hawk, Stoptech, etc. Dust not being an issue. Upgrade the lines to stainless steel then swap out the brake fluid for some good stuff, ATE, Motul, etc. My questions lie around rotor selection. Are the stock rotors acceptable until they wear out or is this a must to swap them out for something with better cooling? I hear all about the cross-drilled rotors being prone to cracking - how true? I have been leaning towards slotted only rotors because of this. But if I can keep the stock rotors I will. How good are the stock solid rotors? This will be my winter project.

Thanks for the input as always :bigthumbsup

El Storcho

kirbster 11-17-2013 12:55 AM

Have you thought about using 11-14 take off rotors? You have to use the brakets from an 11+ too. I've got a set in my garage that I plan in putting on next weekend. Anyway the rotors are a little bit bigger than the 05-10s. There is a post on here detailing the swap.

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mrp5150 11-17-2013 03:34 AM

I've had cross drilled & slotted rotors as well as cross drilled only rotors and they never cracked. I can't see them cracking unless maybe you constantly push your car to the limit. Not something I would worry about at all. My recommendation would be the zinc coated rotors from RotorPros or PowerStop. They both sell sets that come with ceramic pads. They won't rust, they're reasonably priced, and they work well.

themangeraaad 11-17-2013 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kirbster (Post 5420602)
Have you thought about using 11-14 take off rotors? You have to use the brakets from an 11+ too. I've got a set in my garage that I plan in putting on next weekend. Anyway the rotors are a little bit bigger than the 05-10s. There is a post on here detailing the swap.

I've done the swap. Real simple.

One thing to keep in mind though is that you need 18"+ wheels. Looking at OP's thumbnail image it looks like they might be on the stock 17" bullitts.

Robs1stStang 11-17-2013 09:36 AM

If I were to use the 11- 14 take off I would have to get new wheels and tires. ouch $$$. I have the stock 17's still on the car and I have no plans to change -gets expensive. Great idea though I have read through that thread and it shows promise.
MRP5150
Good to hear about the crossdrilled not cracking. Seems that there are a ton of options.

I have a little bit of power behind the car and just want to make sure that it will stop when I want it to.
El STorcho

GTBob985 11-17-2013 10:48 AM

Check out the offerings from stop tech. http://www.stoptech.com/products/sport-kits



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Robs1stStang 11-17-2013 11:23 AM

I was looking at pictures of the stock brembo brakes on mustangs equipped with that package. I understand that the rotors are much larger than stock. However, they are not drilled or slotted, they are solid rotors. I'm wondering why they went this way. It seems in this case that there is no gain in going drilled/slotted over solid.
Am I wrong in assuming this.

El Storcho

funkboy316 11-17-2013 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Robs1stStang (Post 5419922)
Hey gents, just have a few questions on a budget brake upgrade. I'm not going for a big brake upgrade anytime soon. Because there is so much conflicting info on the subject and many hours were spent using the search function to no avail, I'm forced to post so bear with me. I experienced some pretty wicked brake fade the other day so I figure it would be prudent and safe to upgrade. I was slowing from a couple of runs up to about 130mph. I never experienced fade before and it woke me up pretty quickly.

My current thoughts on this matter is to upgrade the pads to EBC yellows, Hawk, Stoptech, etc. Dust not being an issue. Upgrade the lines to stainless steel then swap out the brake fluid for some good stuff, ATE, Motul, etc. My questions lie around rotor selection. Are the stock rotors acceptable until they wear out or is this a must to swap them out for something with better cooling? I hear all about the cross-drilled rotors being prone to cracking - how true? I have been leaning towards slotted only rotors because of this. But if I can keep the stock rotors I will. How good are the stock solid rotors? This will be my winter project.

Thanks for the input as always :bigthumbsup

El Storcho

stock rotors are acceptable as long as they are still in spec (get them turned/resurfaced), the stainless lines are a nice upgrade and so is the ate superblue fluid. I think the ebc redstuff pads are more suitable unless your car is track only. the yellows are very, very noisy for street driving.

Robs1stStang 11-17-2013 03:55 PM

good to know thanks

themangeraaad 11-17-2013 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Robs1stStang (Post 5421306)
If I were to use the 11- 14 take off I would have to get new wheels and tires. ouch $$$. I have the stock 17's still on the car and I have no plans to change -gets expensive.

Doesn't always have to be expensive depending what you're looking for...

Sure I spent $1300-$1400 on my summer wheels & tires (that price includes getting a roadforce balance for them which isn't exactly cheap) but I already needed new tires at the time and would have spent half that on 4 tires for the stock 17's so figured why not double down and upgrade a bit :shigrin

That said, I just recently picked up a set of (close to) mint take-off OEM 18's with practically brand new all-season tires on them for $300 which I plan to run for the winter months.

Robs1stStang 11-17-2013 08:16 PM

That sounds promising. I'll keep my eyes peeled.

Thanks

george06 11-18-2013 12:08 PM

What is a " road force balance ", I never heard the term before.

Robs1stStang 11-24-2013 09:58 PM

I think I have narrowed it down some. I'm going to go with a set of slotted rotors up front. A new set of stock rotors out back. I have ordered stainless lines and Ate super blue fluid. I'm still guessing about pads though. I don't really track the car but I may want to try it in the future once or twice. nothing overly serious. I was going to look into the Ebc yellows but this may be overkill. The reds look okay too but how resistant are those to fade. How resistant are the Hawk Hp to fade. I'm just worried that if I get up past 100mph a few times there won't be much brake there.

Thanks again
El Storcho

funkboy316 11-25-2013 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robs1stStang (Post 5458194)
I think I have narrowed it down some. I'm going to go with a set of slotted rotors up front. A new set of stock rotors out back. I have ordered stainless lines and Ate super blue fluid. I'm still guessing about pads though. I don't really track the car but I may want to try it in the future once or twice. nothing overly serious. I was going to look into the Ebc yellows but this may be overkill. The reds look okay too but how resistant are those to fade. How resistant are the Hawk Hp to fade. I'm just worried that if I get up past 100mph a few times there won't be much brake there.

Thanks again
El Storcho

race pads need heat to bite properly, if you put race pads on a daily driver you will have a hard time stoping during normal driving because the pads wont get hot enough.

JBert 11-26-2013 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robs1stStang (Post 5421786)
I was looking at pictures of the stock brembo brakes on mustangs equipped with that package. I understand that the rotors are much larger than stock. However, they are not drilled or slotted, they are solid rotors. I'm wondering why they went this way. It seems in this case that there is no gain in going drilled/slotted over solid.
Am I wrong in assuming this.

El Storcho

drilled and slotted rotors are mostly for looks -- I am 99.9% sure they do not offer any performance advantage

they might offer a little better "bite" when you first apply the brakes

they do not actually run cooler -- the added mass of not having the slots and holes makes the non-slotted brakes run cooler

less surface area provides less braking

and none of this matters if you are not tracking the car -- the stock brakes will stop the car once just as well as any brake upgrade. The "upgrades" are for stopping the car over and over and dealing with the heat that generates. Same for the performance pads -- generally not a good choice for the street.


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