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Default 2005 Mustang GT... Question about tune for long tubes and CMCV delete plates

I'm installing the Kooks headers and catted x pipe along with the Steeda charge motion plates. My question is will it be safe to drive to the dyno shop to get a tune. Dyno shop is about 2 hours away?
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It will be safe but you're going to be a little lean and you'll throw a DTC because the tune is going to still be looking for the CMCV plates. It'll run but you need to keep your foot out of it.
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Thanks,
And i'm assuming that the tuner will be able to correct the trouble codes.
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And i'm assuming that the tuner will be able to correct the trouble codes.
He needs to turn off the CMCV plates in the tune. He'll know what to do. Just make sure you tell him you installed CMCV delete plates.
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2 hours on a tune that isn't up to par? I wouldn't do it personally. The headers and delete plates are both mods that really need a tune right away.
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2 hours on a tune that isn't up to par? I wouldn't do it personally. The headers and delete plates are both mods that really need a tune right away.
It won't hurt anything but agree that is a long way to go not tuned properly.
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I understand that we need tunes, but isn't the computer a "learning" computer? Shouldn't it adjust itself for mods, or is that beyond it's capabilities?

That would be super cool if it could automatically readjust itself to keep the a/f proper.
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I do have a diablo tuner, is there anything i could do, besides find a dyno closer.
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I do have a diablo tuner, is there anything i could do, besides find a dyno closer.
You can't do anything about the DTC from the CMCV deletes. You could, however, add fuel or pull some timing to combat any possible lean condition.
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GTFIREMAN, keep a close ear on the Kooks. About 5 months after having mine put on, I began getting a rattling noise in the drivers side cat. Found out one of the welds inside came loose and began rattling, then pieces began coming off and got stuck in my Flowmasters. Embarrassing more than anything else to be idling and having the rattling noise, not a good sound for the ponies.
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GTFIREMAN, keep a close ear on the Kooks. About 5 months after having mine put on, I began getting a rattling noise in the drivers side cat. Found out one of the welds inside came loose and began rattling, then pieces began coming off and got stuck in my Flowmasters. Embarrassing more than anything else to be idling and having the rattling noise, not a good sound for the ponies.
UGH! Not another failing hi-flow cat. I've gotta drill mine out one of these days.
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GTFIREMAN, keep a close ear on the Kooks. About 5 months after having mine put on, I began getting a rattling noise in the drivers side cat. Found out one of the welds inside came loose and began rattling, then pieces began coming off and got stuck in my Flowmasters. Embarrassing more than anything else to be idling and having the rattling noise, not a good sound for the ponies.
You're lucky it didn't plug the cat.
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Yup, lucky it didn't plugg the cat, or the muff... why have cats anyways...

To the issue;
Could you e-mail the tuner your current tune and have him adjust it for a 'safer' drive, ie. add the generic tune for the missing CMCVs and added LTs, and send it back to you. Pop it in your tuner and then ECU for a closer tune and better drive??
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Could you e-mail the tuner your current tune and have him adjust it for a 'safer' drive, ie. add the generic tune for the missing CMCVs and added LTs, and send it back to you. Pop it in your tuner and then ECU for a closer tune and better drive??
Excellent idea... That would be ideal if he'd be willing to do it.
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I understand that we need tunes, but isn't the computer a "learning" computer? Shouldn't it adjust itself for mods, or is that beyond it's capabilities?

That would be super cool if it could automatically readjust itself to keep the a/f proper.
You hit the nail right on the head, Bigwilly...it's beyond it's capabilities.
From my understanding the window of adjustment in the computer is too small, meaning it's reading data from that MAF, then refering to data tables that don't contain the data necessary to make the correct adjustment since it's out of range so it can't adjust all the way to make the proper a/f adjustment.
The flash tuners rewrite the data table so the computer can access relevant data in order to make the proper adjustment. Geeky, yes, but I think that's the senario.
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