[hollywood54]

wow great numbers man. I am looking forward to all this Mopar and Chevy guys who have been talking **** about Mustangs and when they go out and buy the new Challengers and Camaro. When they line up to New Mustang like this one or alot of our members at the track they will lurn what Fords are all about.

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[hollywood54]

Hey shadowmaster I see your out of crosby so I take it Ill get to see maybe even line up next to the stang here in two weeks at Fast Ford Weekend at baytown. You going to make it out?

[RetroGT2006]

is it 8lbs of boost total between both turbos? or 8 on each to make 16lbs?? the stats from your 1/4 sound like it would be 16ish.. like psfracer.. but i could be totally wrong.

[ShadowMaster]

Originally Posted by hollywood54

Hey shadowmaster I see your out of crosby so I take it Ill get to see maybe even line up next to the stang here in two weeks at Fast Ford Weekend at baytown. You going to make it out?

You betcha! I will be running in Ultra Stang. Were you out at HRP a few Sundays ago during Test/Tune? I could swear I saw your car out there when we were testing Dad's Thunderbird.

Originally Posted by RetroGT2006

is it 8lbs of boost total between both turbos? or 8 on each to make 16lbs?? the stats from your 1/4 sound like it would be 16ish.. like psfracer.. but i could be totally wrong.

Boost gauge shows 8 lbs at the top end.

[hollywood54]

Originally Posted by ShadowMaster

You betcha! I will be running in Ultra Stang. Were you out at HRP a few Sundays ago during Test/Tune? I could swear I saw your car out there when we were testing Dad's Thunderbird.

Sure was I was getting test time on what I had I put the paxton 2200 novi h.o. last weekend hope to get out there this weekend to get some runs in.

[RetroGT2006]

Originally Posted by ShadowMaster

You betcha! I will be running in Ultra Stang. Were you out at HRP a few Sundays ago during Test/Tune? I could swear I saw your car out there when we were testing Dad's Thunderbird.


Boost gauge shows 8 lbs at the top end.

thats just mindblowing.. 8lbs.. and your in the 10s! that my friend is badasS!

[joefox90]

need more info on that kit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tached_out]

whats the price going to be is it going to be around 7,200.

I might think about buying one next year now. Also those turbos what size do they compare to a T-67? or smaller

[RetroGT2006]

Originally Posted by tached_out

whats the price going to be is it going to be around 7,200.

I might think about buying one next year now. Also those turbos what size do they compare to a T-67? or smaller

They gotta be bigger then T-67's to make that much power to get a insane 1/4mile time with just 8lbs.. or well i would think so atleast..

[ShadowMaster]

Originally Posted by tached_out

whats the price going to be is it going to be around 7,200.

I might think about buying one next year now. Also those turbos what size do they compare to a T-67? or smaller

It's actually going to be in the $8K range due to the price of the turbos. They are Garrett GT2871-R dual ball bearing turbos. 54mm each. These are really top of the line units and the price reflects that. The best thing about them is that if you decide to turn the boost up they will support up to 900 hp without changing turbos. Just tweak the wastegates. If you've got enough engine and fuel system....they will deliver.

[2003turbocobra]

i used the hellion system for my 2003 cobra...was a dream to install. was no harder to install the the kenne bell it replaced...took a bit longer but we added a return style fuel system.

[5twenty]

Originally Posted by ShadowMaster

Still....at only 10 degrees of timing, 8 lbs of boost, and less than 6300 rpm we might surprise ourselves with how long it lives.

They key there is the RPM. That's what kills the connecting rods in a S197. You keep it below that, or even lower, and I think a lot of people will be surprised how long they last.

[ShadowMaster]

Originally Posted by 2003turbocobra

i used the hellion system for my 2003 cobra...was a dream to install. was no harder to install the the kenne bell it replaced...took a bit longer but we added a return style fuel system.

Jon's Cobra kits are very nice!

[ShadowMaster]

Originally Posted by 5twenty

They key there is the RPM. That's what kills the connecting rods in a S197. You keep it below that, or even lower, and I think a lot of people will be surprised how long they last.

Exactly. RPM will kill the rods and/or pull the pins out of the piston skirts. Same thing goes for the cast vs forged crankshaft issue. I used to tell people who insisted on a Cobra crank that unless they were going over 7000 rpm regularly they just did not need the forged crank. Cast cranks are fine under that level and up to around 800 hp or so. I have never seen a broken cast crank that was kept under 7000 rpm.

We had a chat yesterday about this deal and we have decided to keep the car right at this level of performance for the rest of the season. Figure that 10.90's to 11.20's is just fine and won't stress the shortblock or transmission too badly. The sponsor believes, and I agree with him, that a high ten second daily driven car with a STOCK engine, 8 lbs of boost, and a few race wins (or hopefully a championship or two) is considerably more impressive than a mid-low ten second car with a built engine and 15 lbs of boost. They just want to show what the kit is capable of doing on a stock setup this year.

Now...next season?

[MachOne]

Very Very Cool!!!!

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