[sqidd]

It’s obvious everyone is having the same problem and that is the trans needs to be warmed up before it operates smoothly. What’s the mystery in that? This is not a recall situation. It’s like complaining the heater doesn’t blow hot air when you first start the car and there needs to be a recall.

Of course there can be another problem with the trans which will screw up a 2-3rd shift. It could be a bad shift fork, damaged shift drum, syncro problem, etc. But this is considered damage and was most likely caused by missing that gear….hard. It can get goofed up in as little as one bad shift.

I think it’s fair to say that if when your car is warm if you don’t have any problems……..you don’t have any problems. Just let the car warm up, Duh. And just because the air temp is warm doesn’t mean the trans is. If it’s 100deg outside the trans will still need to be warmed up, just not as much as if it’s 40 out.

The reason the trans will feel notchy, makes a bit of noise, etc when it’s cold is that the fluid is a lot “thicker” then and the shafts that are spinning will make the fluid spin too. If the fluid is thick enough it can “grab” stuff I there that wouldn’t normally be spinning and get them moving a bit. The grind or notch that you feel is two things engaging while one of them should not be spinning. There’s almost zero “drive” from the spinning oil though so when they do “grind” witch is just the one part having to stop/slow down the other so they can interlock, there is no damage being done. The spinning oil will give up its grip on the spinning part long before you could do any metal on metal damage.

If, after the car is all warmed up you are still having problems with a shift it can be caused by the slave cylinder too. Which will actually get worse the warmer it gets.

As far as transmission damage goes 99 times out of 100 it will be either hard to get into gear or it will pop out of gear when you lay into the gas.

[BULLITT_2008]

no wonder our american cars makers are going bankrupt too many people buyin cars they dont know how to drive and get things changed because of it

[mad4macs]

Originally Posted by sqidd

[font=Verdana]It’s obvious everyone is having the same problem and that is the trans needs to be warmed up before it operates smoothly. What’s the mystery in that? This is not a recall situation. It’s like complaining the heater doesn’t blow hot air when you first start the car and there needs to be a recall.

If they're seeing what I experience during cold weather, this isn't a case of "operates smoothly" after warming up.

I have no issues 1-2, 2-4, 4-5, but the car CANNOT be put into 3rd gear when temps are below 40 unless I let RPM's drop to a complete idle (or I'm parked).

Think I'm kidding? When it's "cold" outside (and in Houston, "cold" is in the mid forties), there is NO RPM other than idle that my tranny goes into 3rd. I don't even try anymore, I just rev 2nd a little longer then go to 4th.

I also want to stress that my '08 is my THIRD S195 (had two '05's), and my current car is the ONLY one which has this problem.

The 5 speed '05 I owned while living in Michigan did NOT have this problem.
The 5 speed '05 I owned while living in Michigan was my daily driver.
The 5 speed '05 I owned while living in Michigan was driven in temps as low as -20, and at TWENTY DEGREES BELOW ZERO, that car could be shifted into every available gear.

Notchy? Sure it was, but it WOULD go into 3rd gear, whereas my '08 WILL NOT.

The 5 speed '08 I drive now absolutely has an issue my '05 didn't, it absolutely affects drivability, and hearing people who aren't driving MY car (or someone else's car that IS having a problem) telling me (or them) that they aren't having a problem is getting absolutely annoying.

And yes, I'm being a middle aged grump at the moment, but I've put several hundred thousand miles on manual transmissions and THIS CAR, RIGHT NOW, has a problem that NONE of the others I've driven, going back 28 years, has had.

Naysayers may now bite my a@@