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Old 07-28-2008   #16 (permalink)
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I hear you … did you replace the whole unit or just the adjustable arm? I'm see in the service manual it comes out as a unit. It shows the front nut and bolt that need to be replaced, but not upper nut/bolt that connect to the bracket.
I did not replace the bracket.
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I did not replace the bracket.
Went to a shop I just heard about. Guy states the car will have been aligned at another shop after for $60 … says the cast and camber will be off. WTF- I once again said it was a rear upper adjustable control arm. I left w/ a headache.
I asked for the UCA to be installed and then check the pinion angle … that's it!!
Oh ya, he said the wheel hop is from the 4.10's failing Why me, NFW is that it.
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Went to a shop I just heard about. Guy states the car will have been aligned at another shop after for $60 … says the cast and camber will be off. WTF- I once again said it was a rear upper adjustable control arm. I left w/ a headache.
I asked for the UCA to be installed and then check the pinion angle … that's it!!
UCA has nothing to do with caster or camber on the rear.
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Oh ya, he said the wheel hop is from the 4.10's failing Why me, NFW is that it.
Don't think so.
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UCA has nothing to do with caster or camber on the rear.

Don't think so.
That what sucks around here. ASE certified … why's he talking about alignment of the front end. I just watched that video again of the guy setting the pinion angle after installing fixed lowers and adjustable upper. He did it all in about 2 minutes w/o a $60 front end alignment … arrgh, arrgh, arrgh …
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Adjustable upper is on the way … how it's installed and pinion angle checked … NFI
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Adj. is the way to go.....thats what i should have got, but the steeda upper i installed works allright for now.
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If you install an UCA yourself it is a little challenging. CHE says to partially drop the gas tank so you can get the bracket out. Steeda says that you can get the front bolt in without dropping the bracket/gas tank. They are both right, but the CHE is route is definetly the easier method despite how scary dropping the gas tank is.

BTW - I've seen both the Steeda and CHE UCAs and like the CHE better (although they will both work just fine).
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If you install an UCA yourself it is a little challenging. CHE says to partially drop the gas tank so you can get the bracket out. Steeda says that you can get the front bolt in without dropping the bracket/gas tank. They are both right, but the CHE is route is definetly the easier method despite how scary dropping the gas tank is.

BTW - I've seen both the Steeda and CHE UCAs and like the CHE better (although they will both work just fine).
I'm only doing the arm … no bracket. Well, someone is doing it hat has the proper angle finders. -2 is for standard … what's the number for autos??????
F-up that a fixed upper is for lowered and adj. is for non.
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I'm only doing the arm … no bracket. Well, someone is doing it hat has the proper angle finders. -2 is for standard … what's the number for autos??????
F-up that a fixed upper is for lowered and adj. is for non.
The pinion angle question is a bit of a can of worms. Most people say -2 degrees - same for autos and manuals, however there is differences in the way it is supposed to be measured. I am told that the v6 Stang has a 1 piece shaft and the stock pinion angle is -0.5 degrees.

Check out this thread, post 47 to be specific. Travelers provided Ford tech pages on measuring and setting pinion angle.
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Yea my car is not lowered , and I changed the fixed CHE UCA to the adjustable. I should have never got the fixed UCA, with the power house D/S and relocation brackets it threw my pinion angle way off. I am going to the dealer where my friend will help me set the pinion angle on Saturday. The hardest part is changing the UCA,it took me an hour. The first time it was 2 hours. Some things do get better.
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Adjustable upper is on the way … how it's installed and pinion angle checked … NFI
You'll need an angle finder to set your pinion angle. get a magnetic one if you can.
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BTW - I've seen both the Steeda and CHE UCAs and like the CHE better (although they will both work just fine).
Only advantage of the Steeda piece is it's chromoly steel vs mild steel.
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I'm only doing the arm … no bracket. Well, someone is doing it hat has the proper angle finders. -2 is for standard … what's the number for autos??????
F-up that a fixed upper is for lowered and adj. is for non.
-2* is good for a street/part-time racer. -2* to -4* for a full-on track-only car.
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I'm only doing the arm … no bracket. .
You will still probably need to drop the tank a bit to get the front bolt out of the arm where it mounts to the bracket.
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You will still probably need to drop the tank a bit to get the front bolt out of the arm where it mounts to the bracket.
I didn't need to do that.
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