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Old 12-04-2008   #1 (permalink)
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I'm thinking about installing a set of 3.55 gears from 3.31. Right now my car has a C&I cai and a 93oct tune with an auto and stock 18in rims . In other words its stock . The thing is I want to improve the car but do not intend to put in 3.73 or 4.10 . Just a slight improvement with 3.55 . Is this worth it to install 3.55 gears over the 3.31 gears.
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...Is this worth it to install 3.55 gears over the 3.31 gears.
Probably not. If you want bang-for-the-buck get 4.10s.
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I would say no as well. You might feel a slight difference, but it wouldn't be worth the cost of buying the gears and having them installed...

You wouldn't want the 4.10's??
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4.10s all the way, i mean i love my 3.73s but if you already have 3.31s then 4.10s will be AMAZING to you!
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I'm thinking about installing a set of 3.55 gears from 3.31. Right now my car has a C&I cai and a 93oct tune with an auto and stock 18in rims . In other words its stock . The thing is I want to improve the car but do not intend to put in 3.73 or 4.10 . Just a slight improvement with 3.55 . Is this worth it to install 3.55 gears over the 3.31 gears.
You could gear the car to run at a certain RPM while crusing down the Eway. What speed do you want to cruise at? What RPM's? How tall are your rear tires in inches (probably 26in)? If you can fill in the blanks I can tell you what gear you can run and still have the car cruise down the Eway the way you want it to. You should be able to run 3.73's and maybe 3.90's and still have a docile car that gets good milage.
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You should also think about what you intend on doing with the car as far as mods down the road. Gears are a fairly expensive upgrade. I personally would not spend the money to only go to 3:55. For an auto, I would go 4:10 if I were going to spend the money. If you are planning on FI in the near term, you may want to consider dropping back to 3:73 depending on the amount of boost that you may run. I ran 3:73 on my last Foose with a Manual without boost and I was happy. It would still lay about 10' of rubber going into 2nd. I am running 3:55 now with a Whipple and manual again and could stand to go back to the 3:73s. With an auto, you could stand to go a little steeper and still keep the traction under control so you may want to consider the 4:10.

Also consider the type of driving that you will be doing with this car. Is it a daily driver? If so, is it used on a lot of interstate of highway speeds of 70 mph? If so, consider then the higher RPM = higher wear and higher fuel consumption. That may not be an issue for you and only you can make that decision. Good luck on which ever gear set you choose.
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If it's a highway car I would think 3.73s would be perfect. You would likely feel nothing from 3.55s...
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likely feel nothing from 3.55s is what I wanted to know... What I want is every day driving without forced air (cannot afford). I want to improve the car a little here and there. Start with cai, gears, udp, aluminum drive shaft, 555r nitto street tires at around 26in to 27in followed by taking to the local dyno for a tune. Here's the thing I cant afford a blower and the main reason I didn't want to put steep gears in is because of the wine. Just last night my wife was asking me what that noise was and it was the 3.31 gears wining from the factory and i've owned a 73 firebird 3.73 gears and all it did is wine. Fast but lots of wine. Actually my goal is 12.99ET at the track.. Someday...Am I dreaming?
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likely feel nothing from 3.55s is what I wanted to know... What I want is every day driving without forced air (cannot afford). I want to improve the car a little here and there. Start with cai, gears, udp, aluminum drive shaft, 555r nitto street tires at around 26in to 27in followed by taking to the local dyno for a tune. Here's the thing I cant afford a blower and the main reason I didn't want to put steep gears in is because of the wine. Just last night my wife was asking me what that noise was and it was the 3.31 gears wining from the factory and i've owned a 73 firebird 3.73 gears and all it did is wine. Fast but lots of wine. Actually my goal is 12.99ET at the track.. Someday...Am I dreaming?
High 12s N/A is very doable with boltons...
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I have a stick, and went from 355s to 373s. Not much of a difference.
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i started with 3.73's and didnt really notice enough to make it worth the money. so i dropped even more money again and got 4.10's. the 3.73's were nice cause it really didnt seem to change my highway driving, but it had a little extra umph! off the line. Save your money and dont waiste it on 3.53's your not going to notice a big enough difference.
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If it's a highway car I would think 3.73s would be perfect. You would likely feel nothing from 3.55s...

One of my next mods is going to be gears... originally I wanted 4.10's but I had always heard if you do a lot of highway driving then avoid them....

Well idk if my daily actually sees "highway's" my daily route consists of about 3 miles of back roads 45-50 mph, 15 miles of 55-65mph which has 3 stop lights along the way, and about 2 miles of stop and go traffic 35-40mph....

So idk if that is considered a lot of highway miles or not.. the car never really sees average speeds over 65mph unless its an occasional passing at about 70-80..

So any advice on that would be great...
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One of my next mods is going to be gears... originally I wanted 4.10's but I had always heard if you do a lot of highway driving then avoid them....

Well idk if my daily actually sees "highway's" my daily route consists of about 3 miles of back roads 45-50 mph, 15 miles of 55-65mph which has 3 stop lights along the way, and about 2 miles of stop and go traffic 35-40mph....

So idk if that is considered a lot of highway miles or not.. the car never really sees average speeds over 65mph unless its an occasional passing at about 70-80..

So any advice on that would be great...
We were talking more of Interstate driving where posted speeds are 65 - 70 and people drive about 10 over that. Like for me, I have a brother that I visit about 4 hrs away where most is Interestate. I would be hesitant to run 4:10 gears if I were going to make that trip regularly.
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I say the manuel tranny's need 3.73
the Auto's need 4.10s
4.10's in the Auto is fine for highway driving. It will hurt the MPG but the seat of the paints feel is worth it
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