With the recent bevy of camshaft threads it made me wonder for those of us looking into cams now or in the near future what are our options in terms of different companies that make them:
Also what are peoples differing opinions on the various camshafts available in terms of $$$ and quality/technology.
Ill start with the few that I know of and you can add to the list if I missed any.
FRPP Hot Rod Cams
Livernois
Comp Cams
Blow by racing
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Look for mod's in profile... too many.
"As I walk through the valley of rice, I shall fear no VTEC, for torque art though with me. Thy rod and thy piston, they comfort me"
I have pulled the trigger on a set of Comp #127400 stage ones, springs and limiter. And might as well do the Steeda delete plugs while he is in there. Just can't see paying that much for just a drop in and some noise.
But I will let you know how they are on the 15th or 16th when I get back.
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2009 Vapor silver GT Glass roof, 5 speed, Hurst short throw, SCT custom tune by Chris at Excessive Motor sports VA, JLT CAI, Steeda UDP,Steeda fixed LCA's, Boom tubes axel backs, Ford racing 3.73's. 300.54 HP and 310.88 TQ RWHP.
I have pulled the trigger on a set of Comp #127400 stage ones, springs and limiter. And might as well do the Steeda delete plugs while he is in there. Just can't see paying that much for just a drop in and some noise.
But I will let you know how they are on the 15th or 16th when I get back.
Noice Vapor!!! you must put up a video when the cams are in and dyno #'s... i have the same exhaust as you so we got similar setups!
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Originally Posted by RedFire07GT
Im throwing in a set of Comps XFI SPR Stage 2s part# 127500 on Aug 22 along with livernoius stage 2 heads Kooks LTs ARP HeadStuds and 39#injectors.
Out of all the people ive talked to ive decided to go with comp. But everybodys opinion is different.
dang thats quite the setup redfire.... how much is that going to run you $$$?
Im thinking I wanna do either the Comp Cams XFI NSR Stage 1's or the FRPP Hotrod Cams. And yes it makes sense to throw in the CMDP while your at it.
Personally I think L/T headers are more tougher to choose then Cam's redfire... im all over the place trying to decide. I like the kooks, jba's and the bbk's... just not sure which ones to go with stock catted h pipe and boomtubes (although the boomtubes might get too loud with the LT's).
But im wondering is it a good idea to put in some new gaskets just to be on the safe side while your in there doing cams?
Also does anyone know with stage 1 cams are the 3.55's gunna be fine or upgrade in order for that too? I would rather not do gears if i dont have to (rather save the $$$ and put it into aluminum driveshaft).
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Look for mod's in profile... too many.
"As I walk through the valley of rice, I shall fear no VTEC, for torque art though with me. Thy rod and thy piston, they comfort me"
some gears do require a better gear ratio for RPM wise. Everything im installingis, the Cams/Heads, FRPP 39lb fuel injectors, ARP headstud kit, Cam phaser Bolts, Lockouts, Kooks LT's with KOOKS offroad xpipe, New Head gaskets, Oil/Coolant change too. Then tuned in for the street and a race tune.
My Tuner is charging me around $2-2500 or install and tunning of everything.
Im sure some others will chime in here soon and give there information about what you should do. It took me awhile before i finaly new what setup i was going to go with. Goodluck Jay!
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SCTx3Custom-Tune by JJ at Woodbine MotorSports, JLT CAI, Bassani SS AB, KOOKs Long Tubes, KOOKs O/R Xpipe, Livernois Stage 2 Heads, Comp Cams Stg 2 XFI SPR part#:127500, Livernois Lockouts, FRPP 39# Injectors, ARP Head Studs, Autolite HT0 SparkPlugs, FRPP 4.10, CHE LCAs, CHE Anti-squat, FRPP Springs, BMR Adj. Panhard Bar, GT500 Strut Mounts, Eibach Camber Bolts. Track Only:15x4&15x8s Rear-27'' x 10.5'' - 15" Mickey Thompson ET Street Radial, Fronts-26" x 6"-15" Mickey Thompson Sportsman S/R.
some gears do require a better gear ratio for RPM wise. Everything im installingis, the Cams/Heads, FRPP 39lb fuel injectors, ARP headstud kit, Cam phaser Bolts, Lockouts, Kooks LT's with KOOKS offroad xpipe, New Head gaskets, Oil/Coolant change too. Then tuned in for the street and a race tune.
My Tuner is charging me around $2-2500 or install and tunning of everything.
Im sure some others will chime in here soon and give there information about what you should do. It took me awhile before i finaly new what setup i was going to go with. Goodluck Jay!
that sure is gunna be one quick car after those mods.... maybe do some weight reduction in the form of a aluminum driveshaft and add some uca's and lca's down the road with ultra sticky tires and i bet that car surprises some of the non-intercooled S/C guys for sure.
you gotta post dyno #'s on that when your all done and tuned for sure bud.
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Look for mod's in profile... too many.
"As I walk through the valley of rice, I shall fear no VTEC, for torque art though with me. Thy rod and thy piston, they comfort me"
that sure is gunna be one quick car after those mods.... maybe do some weight reduction in the form of a aluminum driveshaft and add some uca's and lca's down the road with ultra sticky tires and i bet that car surprises some of the non-intercooled S/C guys for sure.
you gotta post dyno #'s on that when your all done and tuned for sure bud.
Exaxtly wht i am doing next. Im gunna add Subframe connectors and Put Mickey Thompson Drag Radials on. Im hoping to be around 340-360 wheel.
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SCTx3Custom-Tune by JJ at Woodbine MotorSports, JLT CAI, Bassani SS AB, KOOKs Long Tubes, KOOKs O/R Xpipe, Livernois Stage 2 Heads, Comp Cams Stg 2 XFI SPR part#:127500, Livernois Lockouts, FRPP 39# Injectors, ARP Head Studs, Autolite HT0 SparkPlugs, FRPP 4.10, CHE LCAs, CHE Anti-squat, FRPP Springs, BMR Adj. Panhard Bar, GT500 Strut Mounts, Eibach Camber Bolts. Track Only:15x4&15x8s Rear-27'' x 10.5'' - 15" Mickey Thompson ET Street Radial, Fronts-26" x 6"-15" Mickey Thompson Sportsman S/R.
With the recent bevy of camshaft threads it made me wonder for those of us looking into cams now or in the near future what are our options in terms of different companies that make them:
Also what are peoples differing opinions on the various camshafts available in terms of $$$ and quality/technology.
Ill start with the few that I know of and you can add to the list if I missed any.
FRPP Hot Rod Cams
Livernois
Comp Cams
Blow by racing
I've read great write-ups on all except BBR. It also depends on what your future goals regarding F/I. Iam thrilled with my Ford cams, but if I were to go F/I, I probably would have chose a different set...Head work as well.
Aside from the cost of the cams...I paid 1500 for the install of the cames, delete plates and dyno tune.
Also does anyone know with stage 1 cams are the 3.55's gunna be fine or upgrade in order for that too? I would rather not do gears if i dont have to (rather save the $$$ and put it into aluminum driveshaft).[/quote]
The Comp site states that the 127400's are good with stock gears. But a tune and gear bump to say 3.73 or 3.90's might not hurt. I just stepped back DOWN to a set of 3.73' from 4.10's. I think they to much for N/A with cams. I could start out in 2nd on a level road, and the shift is quick from 1st to 2nd.
That's one of the reasons I am going with the Comp #127400's. The lower end is stonger. I like torque. Not a big top end guy.
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2009 Vapor silver GT Glass roof, 5 speed, Hurst short throw, SCT custom tune by Chris at Excessive Motor sports VA, JLT CAI, Steeda UDP,Steeda fixed LCA's, Boom tubes axel backs, Ford racing 3.73's. 300.54 HP and 310.88 TQ RWHP.
I just had a set of Comp Cams XFI Stage 2 NSR Cams installed yesterday on my 06 GT. I purchased them from Brenspeed as they had the lowest price ($676.78 including two cam phaser bolts and cam lube). The install price was $500. I can tell the difference on the "butt dyno", but I want to get a dyno tune after I install a couple more mods.
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06 Mustang GT, Hurst short throw, Flowmasters, Steeda adj suspension system w/ D-Specs, LCA's, panhard bar w/ brace, FRPP sway bars & endlinks, Steeda CAI, 18" deep dish bullitts w/ Nitto's (275's & 255's), CDC chin spoiler, Webasto power moon roof.
Exaxtly wht i am doing next. Im gunna add Subframe connectors and Put Mickey Thompson Drag Radials on. Im hoping to be around 340-360 wheel.
Very cool redfire....very cool to see your car progress from the lowering to this now... cant wait to see your dyno #'s... Im gunna say with cams/heads and all that snazzy stuff you get in 350rwhp+ for sure... prolly get in around 360. are you getting the work done from the same guy that lowered your car? i remember me not liking him for some reason cuz of something you told me, lol.
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Originally Posted by 05FLStangGT
I've read great write-ups on all except BBR. It also depends on what your future goals regarding F/I. Iam thrilled with my Ford cams, but if I were to go F/I, I probably would have chose a different set...Head work as well.
Aside from the cost of the cams...I paid 1500 for the install of the cames, delete plates and dyno tune.
Dang! 1500 for install of just cams and cmdp's and a tune sounds like quite a bit! I guess underestimated the labor costs. what did you have done with the cams FL? I thought the ford racing hod rod cams didnt need valve springs or phaser work?
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Originally Posted by VaporGT
Also does anyone know with stage 1 cams are the 3.55's gunna be fine or upgrade in order for that too? I would rather not do gears if i dont have to (rather save the $$$ and put it into aluminum driveshaft).
The Comp site states that the 127400's are good with stock gears. But a tune and gear bump to say 3.73 or 3.90's might not hurt. I just stepped back DOWN to a set of 3.73' from 4.10's. I think they to much for N/A with cams. I could start out in 2nd on a level road, and the shift is quick from 1st to 2nd.
That's one of the reasons I am going with the Comp #127400's. The lower end is stonger. I like torque. Not a big top end guy.
EXACTLY!!!! You hit the money my man... im looking for more low end power then high end.... im choosing between the FRPP and Comp Cams stage 1's myself.... If I do upgrade gears I will do 3.90 just cuz im at 3.55 and 3.73's might not be enough kick in the pants for me for the $$$.... 4.10's are out of question... Simply put I dont wanna go there. Although I have found myself looking into a short shifter lately... I wonder how much better it really is for daily driving.
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Originally Posted by Chris D
I just had a set of Comp Cams XFI Stage 2 NSR Cams installed yesterday on my 06 GT. I purchased them from Brenspeed as they had the lowest price ($676.78 including two cam phaser bolts and cam lube). The install price was $500. I can tell the difference on the "butt dyno", but I want to get a dyno tune after I install a couple more mods.
No doubt brenspeed rocks! I just wish they were closer to me! 500 sounds more reasonable for a cam install.... was that cam install with valve srpings being replaced? i assume not.
Im planning on replacing the phaser bolts and head gaskets when i get my cams put in personally to be on the safe side.
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Look for mod's in profile... too many.
"As I walk through the valley of rice, I shall fear no VTEC, for torque art though with me. Thy rod and thy piston, they comfort me"
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