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Default CAI use with a Saleen supercharger

For those of you that have a supercharger, in particular, the Saleen supercharger, is it a plausable application to utilize a cold air intake (CAI) with a supercharger? I was just looking at the Saleen supercharger with 475 hp upgrade kit, and noticed that it utilizes something similar to the stock air box. If I used a CAI (K&N, C&L, etc) would I retard performance or increase performance of the supercharger, or see no noticeable change in performance/efficiency?

Also, does the Saleen supercharger (or Rousch or any supercharger) come with a new throttle body? If I have a 62mm throttle body now, could I use that with a Slaeen supercharger (or other supercharger)?

Here is a real stupid question, but here goes anyways...with a Saleen supercharger, is it possible to utilize the custom intake cover (whether with modification to the cover or not)?
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Hi Mrvandermey,
On the up grade kit the bottom of the box stays they replace the top and snorkel with a larger one.
I do believe the throttle body stays the same. I think there was a thread on here about changing the t/b is not worth the cost for the small horse power gain.
I have no idea on the CAI.
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On the up grade kit the bottom of the box stays they replace the top and snorkel with a larger one.
I do believe the throttle body stays the same. I think there was a thread on here about changing the t/b is not worth the cost for the small horse power gain.
I have no idea on the CAI.
I understand about the TB not haivng a significant gain, but I was already foolish enough to buy one some time ago. I figure the gain may be increased with the use of a supercharger. If no gain, well, I at least do notice a bit more responsive throttle response and I would hate to throw away a perfiectly good TB (now that I have owned it for some time, prior to the reports of minimal gain). Besides, at the very least, the billet aluminum TB does look better than stock, and if it gives me even 5 hp gain, that it 5 more hp than I had before. Is it worth the cost, probably not, but since I already have it might as well use it.

Same theory goes for the CAI. I already have that, and logicially speaking, it should not hurt the use of a supercharger, but should help since it does allow for more air to get to the supercharger. So I would think, but I am not an expert in anyway.
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Mine is drab looking, the billit will hit right in the face as soon as you open the hood. Should be sweet looking.
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I dont think you can use just any CAI with the saleen supercharger.(ill speak specifically of the saleen since it is what i know most about). I believe you might have a hood clearance issue and more importantly it may not fit right, with the lengths and all. I also dont see how using an aftermarket CAI would hurt in any way if you could get in on properly.

As for the TB. i have hear of about 5hp gains on lightly modded cars so im sure you could pull a few more ponies with a supercharger. Atleast thats what i expect, someone else will be able to tell you if you will get more than 5hp with a new TB.

The intake im not sure about. Im not exactly sure what you mean, the plenum cover?
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I dont think you can use just any CAI with the saleen supercharger.(ill speak specifically of the saleen since it is what i know most about). I believe you might have a hood clearance issue and more importantly it may not fit right, with the lengths and all. I also dont see how using an aftermarket CAI would hurt in any way if you could get in on properly.

As for the TB. i have hear of about 5hp gains on lightly modded cars so im sure you could pull a few more ponies with a supercharger. Atleast thats what i expect, someone else will be able to tell you if you will get more than 5hp with a new TB.

The intake im not sure about. Im not exactly sure what you mean, the plenum cover?
Yes, the custom plenum cover. I mean I did spend a good chunk of change for it, and I like good looks almost as much as I like more power. I believe there is nothing wrong with having more power and looking good while you are at it. It is just a thought. Yes, I am highly interested in the Saleen supercharger with the upgraded kit, but I still have a show car and I have already spent the money on the CAI, TB and plenum cover, so if I can still utilize them without hampering the supercharger and still look good at the same time, than I am down with that.
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Also for what it is worth the mechanic who did my install does both Saleen and Roush and he said to me in his opinion the Saleen throttle responce was quicker than Roush. Like I said in the pm the hood insulation had to be removed now I will have to do something eventually with the underside of the hood I guess. Do they make a mirror spray? HA HA
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And if you buy a Saleen mustang with a Saleen s/c the hood is changed and clearence is not a problem. But I was not paying over 50k and I am not a fan of the looks of the Saleen body style, the quality is ok the looks are not my cup of tea.
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Also for what it is worth the mechanic who did my install does both Saleen and Roush and he said to me in his opinion the Saleen throttle responce was quicker than Roush. Like I said in the pm the hood insulation had to be removed now I will have to do something eventually with the underside of the hood I guess. Do they make a mirror spray? HA HA
The hood installation should not be a problem for me, for I have the California Dream Ram Air hood which has about 2 inches more clearance because of the cowl, and as it happens to be, I do not have any hood installation on this hood, it is painted black and has a running pony on it.

I am liking the Saleen kit more and more. From my observation the Saleen supercharger with upgrade kit is within a few hundred dollars of the Rousch and it looks like you get more with the Saleen.
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You have the hood problem solved! Next problem?
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And if you buy a Saleen Mustang with a Saleen s/c the hood is changed and clearence is not a problem. But I was not paying over 50k and I am not a fan of the looks of the Saleen body style, the quality is ok the looks are not my cup of tea.
I had not originally planned on spending over $50K for a Mustang, hence why I got a GT. But as it turns out, with the price of the car (a GT vert premium) plus the mods I currently have (both performance and cosmetic), I am already over the $50K mark, plus I am seriously considering the Saleen supercharger and a few other upgrades (not yet done), which when all is said and done, I will be real close to the $60K mark. But in my opinion, my car looks better than a Saleen or a Shelby GT500.
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You have the hood problem solved! Next problem?
Hood problem solved, installed and ready for show!!!!
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And the winner is........
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Well if you have extra clearance with your cowl hood you should be fine. Id would also recommend engine lowering mounts. They lower the engine a little and are very firm. But you dont have that problem.

Id also recommend going with JDM Engineering (teamjdm.com) and go with their stage 2 package if you haven't already looked at them. I talked to someone there for a good hour or so and they know their stuff. Not a half bad price also.
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+1 on talking with JDM if you decide to go Saleen. The C&L "Racer" intake fits very nicely under the hood. A bit snug under the stock hood but you'll have no problems. Do not go with Saleen's tune!
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