Thinking about going turbo

88_stanga · 12-12-2006

so ive been looking around at supercharger and turbo kits for my 06 GT. ive come to the conclusion that im going turbo. something about a turbo and a v8 that puts a smile on my face. curious to know if anyone has gone turbo or is going turbo. my hopes are to have it done by spring but i dont know right now. i will be using the HP single turbo kit. any thoughts and POSITIVE feedback would be greatly appreciated

**stlwagon** · 12-12-2006

Very cool... There are several folks on here who have installed the Powerhouse Pipeline on here with very good success. The Hellion turbo kit is also a very good kit.

Brent05redfire · 12-12-2006

I would give STS turbo some consideration. easier to install, turbo is in the back so you don't get all the heat from an under hood turbo.

i'm with you, I am more of a turbo freak than a supercharger freak. but, I am leaning towards a SC.

**stlwagon** · 12-12-2006

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Originally Posted by Brent05redfire

I would give STS turbo some consideration. easier to install, turbo is in the back so you don't get all the heat from an under hood turbo.

i'm with you, I am more of a turbo freak than a supercharger freak. but, I am leaning towards a SC.

How is that configured? Is there a website you can point me to?

MickMach · 12-12-2006

I've seen this setup too Mark but cant remember where its at

169stang · 12-13-2006

If you go turbo, you won't be looking back. I know quite a few guys that switched from Vortech's and Prochargers to turbo.
I suggest going with the Powerhouse setup! It is very simple to install. HP....you'll get one box at a time and wait for the complete kit. For some reason, they are slow and I haven't heard of a single person that received the complete kit at one time. It took a couple weeks. STS...I wouldn't go rear mount turbo! Expensive for what you get. Powerhouse has the most complete kit with the easiest instructions that I've seen.
I, personally, have a custom setup.

**stlwagon** · 12-13-2006

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Originally Posted by 169stang

If you go turbo, you won't be looking back. I know quite a few guys that switched from Vortech's and Prochargers to turbo.
I suggest going with the Powerhouse setup! It is very simple to install. HP....you'll get one box at a time and wait for the complete kit. For some reason, they are slow and I haven't heard of a single person that received the complete kit at one time. It took a couple weeks. STS...I wouldn't go rear mount turbo! Expensive for what you get. Powerhouse has the most complete kit with the easiest instructions that I've seen.
I, personally, have a custom setup.

I've had most of my custom work done at Powerhouse and have seen their V8 and V6 turbo setups. It's a quality setup and the plumbing is neatly tucked away. Doesn't have that cluttered look of some of the others.

Brent05redfire · 12-13-2006

when the 05's first came out, I read an article in a Mustang magazine that talked about this setup on the 05 GT. At that time, I think it was a single turbo setup. Now, they have the dual turbos available for the 05+ GT's.

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169stang · 12-13-2006

It's the other way around. STS started with an extremely expensive twin rear mount turbo setup and switched to the single setup when they realized their twin setup was too much $$$.

88_stanga · 12-13-2006

not a fan of the STS stuff. im all set with having my turbo kit mounted in my rear bumper. i appreciate the positive feedback. 169 stang, can you give me some details on your setup. like turbo size, built motor and what not. im about to go check out the powerhouse setup

chevykiller · 12-15-2006

LOL - David's (169stang) set-up may be a little more than you need. His is a 9 sec ride...

His system is built around a Precision ball bearing 76mm unit. Powerhouse uses a precision unit as well. All the kits out there use a precision or turbonetics unit. I have a PH kit I customized with a 76mm ball bearing unit as well. I cannot stress enough how awesome and available Mike at PH is for questions and comments. You can easily get a hold of him and he will talk shop with you all day if you let him.

John Urist over at Hellion is a great guy also but I personally found the PH kit more to my liking. The 'standard' Hellion kit is a spaghetti factory underneath and the smaller downpipe and low hanging kit make it not a good recommendation for me. Part of the issues withtheir kit are because they were trying to be the first to be carb legal. If you do decide on a Hellion, then for sure get their 'race pipe' version as that is the best kit they offer IMO. Just call and ask them about it and they will explain the differences.

Tuning is crucial on turbos IMO especially for driveability and street tunes so make sure you have access to a good custom tuner. Allof the canned tunes I have seen for turbos (including brenspeeds) run dangerous a/f levels IMO and at the very least, you'll be changing expensive plugs often.

That is another great reason for the PH kit IMO if you don't have access to some turbo tuning experts cause Mike's included tune isn't great either IMO but relatively decent enough for the Daily Driver and the best 'included canned tune' out of all the kits.

I did see the Turbonetics kit at SEMA and that looks like a decent kit too but you'llhave to wait for the new year to get more info on a release date and I personally would not want to be one of the 'firsts' to have any power adder. Stay away from the GMS kit - every single person who bought it has had to do massive changes to the kit that GMS still hasn't corrected. One big one is specifically revolving around the MAF and is an issue for everyone who has bought the kit.

I would recommend PH in a second but that's just me.

tached_out · 12-17-2006

If you are building a drag car go with a turbo but if its just a street racer get a SC. I have a procharger that will blow the doors off of most cars on the street with 20's on. If you are going to go turbo do me a favor and check out

Modular Mustang Racing

I just meet with those guys they are building my new motor and they have a great shop and great guys to work with. They have a turbo kit that is affordable and they seem to be setting alot of records on the track as well. check them out.

another point of guidance i will say to. BUILD YOUR MOTOR BEFORE YOU DO ANY TIHNG. I can not stress this one enough. Sure there are some people that get away with stock internals but there are those who dont as well. Procharger swore on every thing my motor will be fine. 3 hours into tuning my car I blew a piston and my rod shot out putting 4 holes in my block, oil pan and going through my starter. I spent 7000 grand getting this car Supercharged and now spending another 7000 making it run agian. All it takes is one bad piston or rod to ruin your night. These alum blocks are WEAK and the piston rings are a joke.

lostsoul · 12-17-2006

you blew your engine on the 9-10# pulley?

tw0scoops123 · 12-18-2006

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Originally Posted by tact_out

If you are building a drag car go with a turbo but if its just a street racer get a SC. I have a procharger that will blow the doors off of most cars on the street with 20's on. If you are going to go turbo do me a favor and check out

Modular Mustang Racing

I just meet with those guys they are building my new motor and they have a great shop and great guys to work with. They have a turbo kit that is affordable and they seem to be setting alot of records on the track as well. check them out.

another point of guidance i will say to. BUILD YOUR MOTOR BEFORE YOU DO ANY TIHNG. I can not stress this one enough. Sure there are some people that get away with stock internals but there are those who dont as well. Procharger swore on every thing my motor will be fine. 3 hours into tuning my car I blew a piston and my rod shot out putting 4 holes in my block, oil pan and going through my starter. I spent 7000 grand getting this car Supercharged and now spending another 7000 making it run agian. All it takes is one bad piston or rod to ruin your night. These alum blocks are WEAK and the piston rings are a joke.

So are you saying get a new block, or just fortifying the internals on the alum block?

nem · 12-18-2006

Hey chevykiller and 169stang. you guys ventured over here. good deal.

Do your own research for each kit. I prefer the Hellion over the PH. One big plus for the Hellion is the option to retain the CATS. Hopefully sometime after the first of the year ill have mine installed.(if the wife will stop spending $$ for xmas) Both kits are a great choice .(Chevykiller and I go at this a lot. LOL). Brenspeed offers a complete kit as well as the PH kit. As far as downpipe sizing for these kits both use a 3" down pipe. Both kits use all stainless steel piping in lieu of aluminized piping like other kits. There is a local shop here that installs the STS system which im not a big fan of a remote setup. kinda expensive and a lot of plumbing underneath . Chevy is right about Turbonetics offering a kit after the first of the year. just a few things i dont like about that kit. thats just my input. just do your research and you will make the right decision.